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It wasn't Bribery, it was intense lobbying and campaign contributions. There's a subtle difference between them in America politics.
Let's be honest, they're the same thing, we just aren't able to to anything about it because the beneficiaries are the ones in power.
European Commission fines Google €4.34B in Android antitrust case
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Let's be honest, they're the same thing, we just aren't able to to anything about it because the beneficiaries are the ones in power.
The laws clearly state it's not bribery. Just how it's not insider trading if Congress Persons act on information they received in the line of work.
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>It was a calculated risk that had a handsome payoff, Yes, it payed off in marketshare, but severely limited the profitability of Android and being another major revenue stream for Google. I hope this decision makes them think twice about their strategy for Fuchsia because they seem to be using the Android model all over again. Google really needs to start operating like Apple for better or worse.
That is really the sad thing about this EU decision. There are many benefits to open source, but it is extremely hard to find ways to monetise it. Google's strategy of using their investment in Android to secure Google Search on mobile was one way of monetising it. Whether you agree with it or not, the EU is shutting the door on that, and it will affect people's view of monetising open source far more generally than…
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I don't consider that part up to Google's discretion. It simply doesn't function without the kernel. The question is whether the Google apps are also essential and inseparable which would tie them to the kernel as part of a derivative work (according to this interpretation which may or may not hold up in court).
It won't function without a kernel, but will it not function without the Linux kernel? Since the Solaris days with lxrun all the way through present time with Windows 10's linux subsystem and SmartOS's lx-branded zones, you could run Linux binaries (and entire distros) on a system without the Linux kernel, with various amounts of support/breakage. Still, no GPL2 kernel needed. I suspect that when a lawyer uses "essen…
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> Android got market share because it was free, not because it was good. If free was all that mattered then one of the other smattering of "free" open source mobile OSes would have taken off. You can perhaps say that free is a necessary condition but it clearly isn't sufficient. Something else matters and to a first approximation that can be thought of as "goodness".
The world has changed. Today what determines the success of a mobile platform is availability if applications. If Ubuntu's thing could run WhatsApp, Facebook and Instagram apps (especially the first b/c it has to be an app), it would have a completely different fate. If I was Mark Shuttleworth, I'd go to Facebook and offer porting WhatsApp for free. IDK the US, but for most of the world, it's an essential means of co…
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Im ignoring that request and review process. I don't need a beaucratic process. Im just going to do it.
That's not your box, though. It's your employers.
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I don't get it either with regards to the Microsoft case. You need a browser to start with but you can install any browser available. Android doesn't block Bing, or any other search engine. So what's the problem?
Yes Google (if that's what you mean by Android) does "block" having Bing as the pre-installed search engine.
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What Chrome also did far better than everyone else was a user local install, ie an install that didn’t require admin on the PC. Shadow IT installs was a huge advantage over Firefox in Chrome’s first years.
I still have to fight this occasionally. :| In one instance, I ended up just telling the antivirus software at a company to flag Chrome as a virus and block it from executing. Software installation requiring admin rights is by design , and circumventing it is unethical as heck.
Software developers often didn’t bother testing or ensuring that their software would install (or even run properly) without admin rights.
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If there were any EU tech companies to check, then they would be.
So according to you, there are zero European tech companies?
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That's not your box, though. It's your employers.
Not necessarily. Byod is commom. And quite frankly even if it is my employers box im not gonna put up with restrictions against installing a web browser. Or deal with some paperwork request, I'll work around it and just do it.
Mechanics bring their own tools frequently but their employers don't try to repo their personal vehicles just because the mechanic used the same tools at home and at work