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People keep saying this, but I flat out don't believe it.
Suit yourself. But as mentioned elsewhere, the equivalent of GDPR has been law in Germany for over a decade, and small businesses have had no problem complying.
GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU
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#902Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is impossible to sell raw-milk cheese in the United States. Are French cheese makers overreacting by simply choosing not to do business here rather than change their centuries-old production techniques? It is illegal to sell kinder eggs in the US, because of some law that involves children accidentally swallowing toys. Is Kinder overreacting by refusing to sell those candies here? You cannot buy Bovril in the US,…
Thank you for making a coherent argument. You are missing one point I think: if not for those regulations those companies would love to do business. They are forbidden from doing business, this guy sees the law and runs off without even trying to become compliant. That's a different thing. There is no way that Kinder could be compliant with US law in such a way that they would not be exposed to what - to EU sensibili…
P.S. I sincerely hope my country gets out of this ASAP.
Re: GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU
#903Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is impossible to sell raw-milk cheese in the United States. Are French cheese makers overreacting by simply choosing not to do business here rather than change their centuries-old production techniques? It is illegal to sell kinder eggs in the US, because of some law that involves children accidentally swallowing toys. Is Kinder overreacting by refusing to sell those candies here? You cannot buy Bovril in the US,…
Unlike your examples, GDPR bans neither messenger apps nor Monal in particular.
"As GDPR approaches, I get the impression that it is an end of an era for the internet. The days of someone making something, putting it on the internet and offering it to the world seem to be over. "
And this particular thing GDPR ruins pretty goddamn well.
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Unlike your examples, GDPR bans neither messenger apps nor Monal in particular.
If you read the article, you would find out that this is the essence basically. "As GDPR approaches, I get the impression that it is an end of an era for the internet. The days of someone making something, putting it on the internet and offering it to the world seem to be over. " And this particular thing GDPR ruins pretty goddamn well.
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Any laws that have the potential to reach me I am compliant with. If there are countries with laws that strike me as idiotic - such as anti-blasphemy laws - then I will do my level best to be informed of that beforehand and I will not break that law even if I feel that it is idiotic. And as for the 'don't insult the monarch' law, we have that law here in NL and I purposefully broke it as a private individual to make…
You're right, there was never a business behind this. It's free software. Why should the creator of free software spend their own money to support users in a region that imposes extra regulations?
If I create free software that concretely and demonstrably aids in worldwide human trafficking and has negligible utility elsewhere, would you still consider my refusal to comply with regulation reasonable because my software was free?
How free the software is not a determining factor, either morally or legally, in determining whether or not the GDPR is or should be applicable.
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You don’t need a lawyer to comply with the law is a weird statement to put out there. You should retract.
What? I don’t need a lawyer to tell me I can’t go out and steal someone’s wallet. It’s perfectly possible to comply with the law without one.
The only thing certain are the insane crippling fines.
It is extremely naive to believe you don't need a lawyer for that. You do - the same way as in some of EU's less market-oriented countries, after a VAT reg you need a registered accountant.
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#907This is a ridiculous over-reaction based on an extremely shallow interpretation of the GDPR. If you are running a small business and you feel that you won't be able to operate your business because of the GDPR consider all those other laws that you have to be in compliance with as well. If that's your attitude towards legal compliance then you should probably shut your business down completely rather than to hope tha…
He is not running a business but an open-source project!!!!
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Please actually read the law before you try to argue with “as a...“. The fine scales with the violation and it does -surprise- not mean that arbitrary Github projects will have to pay 20m€...
The sentiment of a law doesn't always translate to the enforcement of it in practice
Re: GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU
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I can only think you are not familiar with European principle based law vs US rule based law. Where you see 'vague', I see 'flexible' and 'able to move with the times'
Have you considered that a law being "flexible" and "able to move with the times" is exactly why someone wouldn't like it being vague? A law that is "flexible" means that it's a law that can be arbitrarily applied. A law that can "move with the times" means that what might be fine now won't be fine later and just maybe you will be the first to find out. It doesn't matter if European law has a history of being "princi…
I will leave the reader to make their own jokes.