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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by IAmGraydon »

bbcbasic wrote: post #858
Taek wrote: post #217

Mass outage like this is exactly one of the things we are looking to avoid by building a decentralized storage grid with Sia. Sia are immune to situations like this because data is stored redundantly across dozens of servers around the world that are all running on different, unique configurations. Furthermore, there's no single central point of control on the Sia network. Sia is still under heavy development, but it…

Oddly, the self promo worked for a Google employee (see the top rated comment by boulos), but not for you.

That would be because the Google employee didn't claim they were "immune" to problems, and actually admitted having their own problems from time to time.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by ec109685 »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #879
nodesocket wrote: post #851

Meanwhile engineers across the globe scramble to fix outages due to AWS s3, $AMZN is unaffected on the stock market. Just shows the disconnect between emotions and reality. https://www.google.com/finance?chdnp=0&chdd=0&chds=1&chdv=0&...

Why would this affect Amazon's stock? Amazon generates $136B per year. AWS comprises $8B of that. Even if 5% of customers left because of this (and that's never going to happen), it would barely create as much as a tiny ripple in their ocean of revenue. Investors care not about Amazon's cloud services.

AWS's profit helps fund the rest of their business.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by mullen »

compuguy wrote: post #463
gamache wrote: post #127

A piece of hard-earned advice: us-east-1 is the worst place to set up AWS services. You're signing up for the oldest hardware and the most frequent outages. For legacy customers, it's hard to move regions, but in general, if you have the chance to choose a region other than us-east-1, do that. I had the chance to transition to us-west-2 about 18 months ago and in that time, there have been at least three us-east-1 ou…

Is us-east-2 (Ohio) any better (minus this aws-wide S3 issue)?

us-east-2 is brand new and us-east-1 is the oldest region. Any time there is an issue, it is almost always us-east-1. If possible, I would migrate out of us-east-1.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by snackai »

JPKab wrote: post #753
boulos wrote: post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

I've used both Google Cloud and AWS, and as of a year or so ago, I'm a Google Cloud convert. (Before that, you guys didn't at all have your shit together when it came to customer support) It's not in bad taste, despite other comments saying otherwise. We need to recognize that competition is good, and Amazon isn't the answer to everything.

What indeed is bad taste is your choice of Google Cloud over AWS. No I really like GCP, use it at core of many apps, but if people really want a decentralized web we need to use more than one provider. Don't "convert". Use booth, redundancy ffs.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by keithnoizu »

vacri wrote: post #868
JPKab wrote: post #753

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used both Google Cloud and AWS, and as of a year or so ago, I'm a Google Cloud convert. (Before that, you guys didn't at all have your shit together when it came to customer support) It's not in bad taste, despite other comments saying otherwise. We need to recognize that competition is good, and Amazon isn't the answer to everything.

My experience of support with Google Apps for Business makes me very wary of using anything Google for critical business infra. Google products are nice, but as soon as you hit a problem or edge case, you're on your own in my experience.

This.

I used to work on the Azure Portal Team. As much negative things as I can say about Microsoft, they take making things just work for developers seriously, despite high prices and misc. service issues.

The since nixed compute container project I initially worked on really exemplified this.

I tend to use Colo or AWS when possible but I have a client that insisted on Google GCE and Endpoints.

I've spent so much time time digging through source code and working around broken dev tooling, and dealing with incorrect or out of date documentation thanks to that requirement.

In my personal opinion Google has a way to go in mature tooling. Silent failures, or worse failures that don't result in build failures are not acceptable. Requiring paid support contracts to resolve an issue in google infra is not acceptable. Incredibly poor support for local dev environments is not acceptable.

After dealing with this stuff, I find it unlikely that I will ever rely on their systems in the future. AWS/Colo or, with reservations, Azure all the way.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by ec109685 »

alanning wrote: post #187
talawahdotnet wrote: post #38

Yup it looks so. My console says I have zero buckets, my Lambdas are timing out and https://aws.amazon.com/ returns a big: "500 The server encountered an error processing your request." message

Our lambda functions are also unavailable. Lucky for us we didn't move any of our critical functionality to lambda yet although we are planning to once we have an EC2 backup in place...

Don't know if share911 is still your product (its about page is down), but you could run your critical services on top of something like PagerDuty to give you the reliability you need.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by Spunkie »

boulos wrote: post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

So this is more compute related but do you know if there are any plans on supporting the equivalent of the webpagetest.org(WPT) private instance AMI on your platform?

Not only is webpagetest.org a google product but it's also much better suited for the minute by minute billing cycle of google cloud compute. For any team not needing to run hundreds of tests an hour the cost difference between running a WPT private instance on EC2 versus on google cloud compute could easily be in the thousands of dollars.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by kevin2r »

atombender wrote: post #325

It's interesting to note the cascading effects. For example, I was immediately hit by three problems: * Slack file sharing no longer works, hangs forever (no way to hide the permanently rolling progress bar except quitting) * Github.com file uploads (e.g. dropping files into a Github issue) don't work. * Imgur.com is completely down . * Docker Hub seems to be unavailable. Can't pull/push images.

I was also trying to open gotomeeting web client, no luck.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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Post by kesor »

nomadicactivist wrote: post #285
kangman wrote: post #59

what's the SLA for s3?

And my favourite part: "To receive a Service Credit, you must submit a claim by opening a case in the AWS Support Center." -- for a company that has built itself on automation, surely you could automate some bill credits based on the SLA.

You can open tickets in support with API calls ... just sayin.
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