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What I Heard from Trump Supporters

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Post by eli_gottlieb »

christophilus wrote: post #531
sseagull wrote: post #241

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I'm pretty liberal and (used to be) a gun owner. I can see supporting those things (I personally would like nationwide reciprocity [0]). It's just very hard for me to understand how this issue (or others like abortion) would be above all others. You are voting for a government with a tremendous amount of power and responsibility (military and defense, infrastructure, running a huge economy, world trade, healthcare, e…

My mom voted for Trump because of the abortion issue. The reason it's above all others in her mind is that she literally views it the way we view the holocaust. (e.g. "Millions of people have died because of pro-choice policies.") So, whether or not you agree with her, you can see that there is some logic to making that issue a high priority if she views it that way. "Hitler's really got a great economic package, has…

So wouldn't the sensible position be universal contraception to prevent a fetus from forming?

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Post by csense »

mildbow wrote: post #631
joncalhoun wrote: post #580

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I live in a small deep-red town, so I'll try to give my take on a few here. 2. Imagine you lived in a town where 99% of the population is not racist, but that 1% that is racist is blatantly so. They don't do thing subtly, but they openly use racial slurs and make it known that they don't like or trust people of a certain ethnicity. Now imagine someone comes into town and when they happen to see someone of color they…

2. That makes sense. 4. Definitely a horrible situation to be in. What do they/you think Trump has promised to do that might make an actual difference?

All the factories left town, because those businesses could do what they do cheaper in China or Vietnam or Singapore or Mexico.

Trump promised to put big taxes on goods coming in from overseas, and on companies who close US factories to move operations to other countries. It's a simple, direct assault on the immediate causes of the problems of these communities, and something no national politician has dared to consider in recent memory.

Experts and mainstream politicians warn that this kind of policy will cause a global depression. But these are the same experts and mainstream politicians who've told these people that the globalization which destroyed their communities is good for them. What they say so plainly contradicts these communities' first hand experience, that it's really hard to believe them.

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Post by zengid »

joncalhoun wrote: post #580
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1. Why do they hate her? 2. Do they consider him not racist/sexist because they are a little bit too? (Not trying to be inflammatory) 3. I hate it too. 4b. Why are they hurting? Why is median household income so low?

I live in a small deep-red town, so I'll try to give my take on a few here. 2. Imagine you lived in a town where 99% of the population is not racist, but that 1% that is racist is blatantly so. They don't do thing subtly, but they openly use racial slurs and make it known that they don't like or trust people of a certain ethnicity. Now imagine someone comes into town and when they happen to see someone of color they…

Your answers have a lot of insight. As a blue-state city kid, I've been struggling to even comprehend how a Trump supporter can even exist let alone understand how he was elected. From your response I can start to understand where they're coming from. Thank you.

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Post by rrauenza »

mcphage wrote: post #780
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I agree with most of the above sentiment, but there's a little more context to the mocking of the disabled reporter. He'd been using those motions to mock people (who are backpedaling) in general for quite some time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgaC0leEb68

> He'd been using those motions to mock people (who are backpedaling) in general for quite some time Oh, okay. So it's not jus that he's mocking a disabled reporter, but mocks other people as if they were disabled as well. Well, that's just fine, then.

Yes, I agree (that its not fine, to be clear) -- I'm not even convinced he knew this particular reported was disabled because to him it's just an insignificant reporter's name on a page. His generic mocking just happened to have real consequences this time.
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