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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by fudged71 »

slantyyz wrote: post #104
blocke wrote: post #24

The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10 seconds when I learned how to touch type. The presenter spent most of his time looking at the keyboard and not the screen. This gimmick will disappear when Apple decides a touch screen is needed to complete the slow me…

When Schiller showed how MS Office worked with the touch bar, I thought it was pretty hilarious. All of the toolbar buttons and more were already on the main screen. If they had offered a touch screen instead, the user wouldn't have to take his/her eyes off the screen to perform the same functions. And that feature is already available on Windows machines with touch screens.

Actually, even the Safari Touch Bar demo showed redundant URL bar and nav keys. Sad.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by csharp »

leejoramo wrote: post #84
dchuk wrote: post #12

(Posted in another thread, that probably will not make it as high as this) I think conceptually this is really neat, but it could potentially suffer from one major flaw: I hardly ever look down at my keyboard. A flat, digital screen containing changing buttons does not cater well to touch typists, of which you can reasonably assume most are who use a macbook pro. Touch ID is sweet though.

I live in terminal about a third of my day. I seldom use the function keys for anything other than adjusting the volume and brightness. I can't remember the last time I needed to use a pure Function key in any app. I am a keyboard junky. I have long used LaunchBar (since OS X Beta), Keyboard Maestro and other utilities to do almost everything on my computer and while keeping my hands on the home keys. And I mapped th…

As others have mentioned. I just remapped my function keys for common tasks or launching applications (e.g. f1 = Xcode, f2 = Slack, f3 = Terminal). Using something like Keyboard Maestro (which you use), you can also contextualize the functionality based on certain applications.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by chadcmulligan »

The touch bar seems interesting, perhaps what I'd like is a separate product that sits beside my mac and gives the touch bar functionality - something the size of a trackpad would be fantastic imho.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by overgard »

inputcoffee wrote: post #335

Everyone seems disappointed but I think the reason is this: There isn't that much to innovate on the laptop. If you want real innovation, you need new form factors: voice recognition, VR, intelligent devices and so on. The laptop is excellent at what it does and the only thing you can really do is make it faster and lighter.

I don't want innovation on my laptop, I want evolution. Make the battery last longer and the processor faster. These "innovations" are solving problems that don't exist, and they just made the product worse for me. All my computers since 2009 have been macs, but my next laptop isn't going to be one.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by icedchai »

codeinstyle wrote: post #123

Am I the only one disappointed by the butterfly keyboards on the new Macbook Pros? I've been a Mac user for roughly about ten years now, but I think it's time to switch back to Windows.

IMO, Mac laptop keyboards have been going down hill since they switched to the chicklet style. I much preferred the pre-2008 MacBook Pros with "regular" keyboards.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by golergka »

dmitriid wrote: post #656
rayiner wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

Professionals use desktops. You cannot seriously expect anyone edit a 4k video on a laptop with 16 GB or RAM, no matter how hard Apple is pushing their ridiculous onstage demos. You cannot seriously expect serious developers run multiple VMs, for example, on 16 GB RAM on a laptop. The list goes on and on.

There are a lot of different "developers" in the world. Some require server farms. Some would be just as productive on a 486.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by swang »

developer2 wrote: post #896
swang wrote: post #341

I have the early 2013 MacBook Pro. It is still pretty fast. Nothing I saw today makes me happy to upgrade as a developer. Sure it's lighter and thinner and HUUGE trackpad that's a nice to have when I'm traveling. But the TouchBar requires me to look down at my keyboard which slows me down. And they can't even leave the keyboard itself alone with the terrible butterfly implementation coming over from the 12" MacBook.…

>> with the terrible butterfly implementation coming over from the 12" MacBook You missed the part where Tim mentioned that the butterfly mechanism is a second-generation upgrade with more travel time on the keys. It remains to be seen just how large of an improvement it is. >> People still use SD-cards Apple! I'm fine with the SD slot being gone. Just another space-wasting component most of us haven't used in a deca…

> You missed the part where Tim mentioned that the butterfly mechanism is a second-generation upgrade with more travel time on the keys. It remains to be seen just how large of an improvement it is.

No I read about it. If the prev gen product was great I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. But as it stands their butterfly style keyboards are terrible for me.

> I'm fine with the SD slot being gone. Just another space-wasting component most of us haven't used in a decade.

> This is a portable series of laptops. Versus the large non-portable laptops that Apple previously made.

> If you're in a position that you are lugging around a DSLR camera and 5+ lenses (that's why you need SD reader, right?), and a host of other devices you seem to need USB for, you have enough space in your bag for a larger adapter[1] - it even has the SD card reader!

No I need it like any other normal person who backs up their photos to their laptop. I don't lug around 5 lenses and I sure as hell don't want to lug around additional dongles that cost me $50 just to buy. Maybe USB-C becomes ubiquitous in 2-3 years time. Great, I'll consider my options then. Loss of MagSafe just to get this USB-C ubiquity is (again) not worth it for me.

Not really even sure why you're stating your opinion as some refutation of my opinion... My post was talking about why I won't be buying one. If you don't use an SD slot. Great, maybe this MacBook Pro is for you. If you want "the future in cabling and connection ports", this MacBook may be for you. If you want a "Touch Bar", this MacBook may be for you.

> The kind of people who need so much aren't lugging around a laptop to a cafe. They're sitting in professional studios with million dollar hardware, and rendering their IMAX videos on external server clusters. Or at least at home/office with a proper desktop machine that better matches their profession.

I am not sure what this has to do with me, a developer and photographer who is interested in upgrading his MacBook Pro and literally needs the exact opposite of this.

> Next I'll be hearing about how terrible it is that the Apple Watch can't edit 4k video. Okay buddy. Never knew the current gen watches could edit 4K video.

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