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Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by olavk »

rwhitman wrote: post #87

Hollywood is an industry that should be very vulnerable to disruption. Even if we ignore the whole digital distribution aspect, there's so much bloat in the overhead cost of producing a film. Everything about the industry is based around croneyism, various inside deals made between established independent contractors on short term contracts with all sorts of padding. Plus overhead for safety & insurance, lots of manu…

Your point about "shooting on location" versus CGI seem absurd to me. A Hollywood production is so much more that just the logistics to shoot on location. It is actors, directors, casting, production design, production management, music, manuscripts, editing etc. All of these things requires a specialized skillset. None of these can be replaces with a server rack. Animation is somewhat different production-wise, but still need the same kind of talent, just not as many trucks.

Hollywood accounting is infamous, but it seems Hollywood actually know what they are doing business-wise. They pay stars a lot of money because it translates into ticket sales, not because they are idiots.

Many movies are made outside of Hollywood (so-called independent movies) with cheaper talent (sometimes working for free), but only rarely are they as financially successful as Hollywood movies.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by gmarx »

rwhitman wrote: post #87

Hollywood is an industry that should be very vulnerable to disruption. Even if we ignore the whole digital distribution aspect, there's so much bloat in the overhead cost of producing a film. Everything about the industry is based around croneyism, various inside deals made between established independent contractors on short term contracts with all sorts of padding. Plus overhead for safety & insurance, lots of manu…

No need to shoot on location? This is how it was done in the studio system from the early days through about the 1970s. The studios were more dominant then.

I agree some aspects of film are ripe for disruption but many aspects have already been disrupted multiple times over the years.

I'm in the medical industry, which is another field that tech newbies think will be fixed real soon now as hackers turn their attention to it. In both cases there is a lot of hard earned insider knowledge that outsiders (arrogantly) discount.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by civilian »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #51
venomsnake wrote: post #11

If I were google I would choose a big upcoming multi billion Hollywood film. And just return empty pages while the marketing campaign is roaring. For the star/cast/everything. I would call it piracy prevention program - that way no one will be able to find piracy content trough google.

Or Youtube. That must be the only place people will watch a trailer without the studio paying anything. In fact, maybe they even make money from the views.

I once had to watch a trailer for a different movie in order to watch the trailer I wanted to watch. I think most people posting trailers disable ads, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by sirseal »

rwhitman wrote: post #87

Hollywood is an industry that should be very vulnerable to disruption. Even if we ignore the whole digital distribution aspect, there's so much bloat in the overhead cost of producing a film. Everything about the industry is based around croneyism, various inside deals made between established independent contractors on short term contracts with all sorts of padding. Plus overhead for safety & insurance, lots of manu…

Nope.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by sirseal »

venomsnake wrote: post #16
SaturateDK wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be lovely, however that probably won't happen. Seeing google might get sued for that.

Why? They are a private company, they can do whatever they want on their site (also known as the iOS censorship apologist argument)

They are actually a public company as you can buy stock in them.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by vonklaus »

venomsnake wrote: post #11

If I were google I would choose a big upcoming multi billion Hollywood film. And just return empty pages while the marketing campaign is roaring. For the star/cast/everything. I would call it piracy prevention program - that way no one will be able to find piracy content trough google.

I assume this is a joke. This would be terrifying. The MPAA are trying to stop google from fairly distributing pages they disagree with. Google is net neutrality and should act as a dumb pipe utility in the sense that it returns the most relevant info based on your search.

If google returned empty pages for something it didn't agree with, the implications would be appalling.

Google should do during the spectrum wars when they bid on spectrum and territory to leverage telecom co.s. They should threaten to back netflix or start a studio to make movies and content. They already have distribution and funds.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by vonklaus »

verinus wrote: post #47
venomsnake wrote: post #11

If I were google I would choose a big upcoming multi billion Hollywood film. And just return empty pages while the marketing campaign is roaring. For the star/cast/everything. I would call it piracy prevention program - that way no one will be able to find piracy content trough google.

while i can this form an emotional point of view I would call this highly unprofessional. nevertheless hollywood does everything to abolish itself producing only comic/computer game adaptions or se-/prequels.

Yeah, I assume everyone is joking or something. Do we really want google to set such a precedent? Killing pages of things they or their affiliates dislike. Scary.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by wmeredith »

venomsnake wrote: post #16
SaturateDK wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be lovely, however that probably won't happen. Seeing google might get sued for that.

Why? They are a private company, they can do whatever they want on their site (also known as the iOS censorship apologist argument)

They are a monopoly. iOS is not.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by brlewis »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #46

I'm actually wondering how illegal this is? This is trying to influence the stock market and attacking 1 company without "legal" jurification. They are trying to hurt Google's through stock, this IS actually the same as stealing/taking away a billion $ (stockvalue) ... (that should be illegal, isn't it?) They obviously failed before execution, but that shouldn't matter... Does anyone know if Google can use this infor…

Does anyone know if Google can use this information in court for a lawsuit against MPAA?

Yes. According to the article it's in a court filing. I presume for the following lawsuit:

http://services.google.com/fh/files/blogs/google_jimhood_dec...

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by eplanit »

rwhitman wrote: post #87

Hollywood is an industry that should be very vulnerable to disruption. Even if we ignore the whole digital distribution aspect, there's so much bloat in the overhead cost of producing a film. Everything about the industry is based around croneyism, various inside deals made between established independent contractors on short term contracts with all sorts of padding. Plus overhead for safety & insurance, lots of manu…

PG has posted on this topic a few times, in fact.

http://www.paulgraham.com/ambitious.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_bet/2014/02/netfl...

http://www.ycombinator.com/rfs/#hollywood

Yes, they're ripe for it. The consumers are ready for it, too. More power to those who pursue it!

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