Happy 10th birthday to us • Hacker News Board

Re: Happy 10th birthday to us

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 1:20 AM UTC

MrAlmostWrong wrote: post #77

astrodust wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of people feel the same way about Reddit as they do about The Simpsons : It used to be good. Like so many mega-scale communities before it, Reddit is a case study in what happens if you let your user base grow faster than your cultural core can assimilate it. To get the good content you need to dig deeper and deeper now, hide yourself away from the deluge of garbage that is the top-level groups. /r/prog…

I agree with the other replies in that I don't think the quality of Reddit has necessarily gone down, you just have to look in the right places. You probably can't get the deep discussions that you initially could, but on the other side of the coin you also can't get the vast amount of new content that you might've never come across. You certainly do need to hide away from the top level stuff and find the sub-reddits…

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Re: Happy 10th birthday to us

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Post by est » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 2:18 AM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #73

billmalarky wrote: post #52

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Imgur uses the free/extremely cheap CDN Cloudflare. Same with 4chan. The vast majority of Imgur's content gets served at the CDN layer so Imgur doesn't have to pay for that bandwidth. moot (of 4chan) said a while back that Cloudflare is one of the main reasons 4chan is still around these days.

Imgur used other CDNs before, as well (they were on EdgeCast, not sure if they still are).

And VoxCDN.

There used to be a domain for imgur like imgur.voxcdn.com to help people get around WebSense.

Re: Happy 10th birthday to us

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Post by go1dfish » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 2:19 AM UTC

I've asked this repeatedly at reddit and have still yet to ever receive an answer and I think it goes to the core of many of the concerns the reddit community has over the new direction.

Why is /r/TwoXChromosomes the only default subreddit to allow political advocacy?

Not a single default would have accepted kn0thing's first post in todays reddit.

Reddit as a political soapbox died around the time of Occupy Wall Street. It's as neutered as Facebook now.

Re: Happy 10th birthday to us

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Post by raldi » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 2:42 AM UTC

go1dfish wrote: post #93

I've asked this repeatedly at reddit and have still yet to ever receive an answer and I think it goes to the core of many of the concerns the reddit community has over the new direction. Why is /r/TwoXChromosomes the only default subreddit to allow political advocacy? Not a single default would have accepted kn0thing's first post in todays reddit. Reddit as a political soapbox died around the time of Occupy Wall Stre…

Most political subreddits don't garner upvotes on the basis of "I'm glad I was shown this" but rather, "YOU need to read this".

And so you get a front page full of angry crap nobody wants to read but everyone thinks everyone else needs to see.

It doesn't make for a pleasant user experience.

Re: Happy 10th birthday to us

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Post by debaserab2 » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 3:25 AM UTC

alogray wrote: post #70

astrodust wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of people feel the same way about Reddit as they do about The Simpsons : It used to be good. Like so many mega-scale communities before it, Reddit is a case study in what happens if you let your user base grow faster than your cultural core can assimilate it. To get the good content you need to dig deeper and deeper now, hide yourself away from the deluge of garbage that is the top-level groups. /r/prog…

Frankly, I don't feel like Reddit's quality has changed altogether too much since even before Digg v4 killed Digg. There was definitely a period where the average quality of a comment seemed higher. But those times also coincided with the rise of novelty accounts, power user personalities, often with foul sounding names and awful subreddits. Drama over subreddit bannings is nothing new, either. Honestly, I'm enjoying…

> There was definitely a period where the average quality of a comment seemed higher. But those times also coincided with the rise of novelty accounts, power user personalities, often with foul sounding names and awful subreddits. Drama over subreddit bannings is nothing new, either.

Personally I'm pretty happy there's less of the narwhalbacon joke stuff that used to be rampant in the comments years ago. I think the noise:signal ratio is about the same as I can ever remember it being, but at least I can now stand the noise.

To this day I still don't tell people I visit reddit because I don't want to be associated with or labeled as a "redditor" despite the fact that I find the site to be a valuable source of content. There's a strong faction of the core user base that I just can't relate to.

Re: Happy 10th birthday to us

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Post by go1dfish » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 3:49 AM UTC

raldi wrote: post #94

go1dfish wrote: post #93

I've asked this repeatedly at reddit and have still yet to ever receive an answer and I think it goes to the core of many of the concerns the reddit community has over the new direction. Why is /r/TwoXChromosomes the only default subreddit to allow political advocacy? Not a single default would have accepted kn0thing's first post in todays reddit. Reddit as a political soapbox died around the time of Occupy Wall Stre…

Most political subreddits don't garner upvotes on the basis of "I'm glad I was shown this" but rather, "YOU need to read this". And so you get a front page full of angry crap nobody wants to read but everyone thinks everyone else needs to see. It doesn't make for a pleasant user experience.

The front page algorithm is specifically tailored to normalize the appearance of subs precisely so this sort of thing doesn't happen. It's simply not true that the front page would get flooded with politics if you brought in a single default subreddit that allowed general advocacy (or just reddit rule parity like /r/reddit.com did).

Also what makes /r/TwoXChromosomes any different?

Can't you see how that seems a bit unfair to long term politically oriented users of reddit when kn0thing is making statements like this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/35ym8t/promote_ideas_...

And ekjp is out doing interviews with avowed feminists and talking about safe spaces?

If reddit doesn't want to be a platform for political advocacy and activism just make that clear and be fair and even handed about it. Right now some groups are allowed to coordinate email campaigns while others are not and this favoritism has existed at high levels of reddit (whether due to mod cliques or admin influence) ever since the Ron Paul campaign.

The truth is that everyone posting to reddit is posting it with some measure of "YOU need to read this" and the state of default moderation leads to a torment for users who actually want to contribute in ways that powermods (and now admins) disagree with.

The new safe space rule is "Systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone in a way that would make a reasonable person (1) conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation, or (2) fear for their safety or the safety of those around them."

The way this is written implies that safety is not the only factor in harassment, but that continued actions to torment and demean users in a way that makes reasonable people conclude that reddit is not a platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/36iduv/what_is_the_ap...

But the community team seems to only be using it to "ban behavior not ideas" by banning fresh subreddits that share any similarity with previously objectionable subs that were banned for harassing activity without warning, and without submitting any evidence to the community of the behavior so contemptible that it was worthy of disbanding a relatively large community without warning or any recourse whatsoever.

But to be clear, the banning of FPH did not trigger my outrage, I was stunned and appalled at Pao's statements wrt to Free Speech recently it's just a massive departure from the historical nature of the site and it's disingenuous to not acknowledge that to the community from whence you draw all power and profit.

Re: Happy 10th birthday to us

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Post by vshan » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 3:51 AM UTC

Most people don't know this, but it was PG who gave Alexis and Steve the idea to make something like reddit, and also gave them the tagline "the front page of the internet".[0]

PG had vetoed their initial idea to create a food-delivery app and then called them back and asked them to come up with something new.

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rZ8f3Bx6Po

Re: Happy 10th birthday to us

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Post by odiroot » Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 7:01 AM UTC

raldi wrote: post #94

go1dfish wrote: post #93

I've asked this repeatedly at reddit and have still yet to ever receive an answer and I think it goes to the core of many of the concerns the reddit community has over the new direction. Why is /r/TwoXChromosomes the only default subreddit to allow political advocacy? Not a single default would have accepted kn0thing's first post in todays reddit. Reddit as a political soapbox died around the time of Occupy Wall Stre…

Most political subreddits don't garner upvotes on the basis of "I'm glad I was shown this" but rather, "YOU need to read this". And so you get a front page full of angry crap nobody wants to read but everyone thinks everyone else needs to see. It doesn't make for a pleasant user experience.