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Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by omegaham »

anc84 wrote: post #75
fridek wrote: post #35

Honest question - what business model for free content do you see other than ads? I understand all the privacy and distraction issues related, but increasingly many news sites I read feature only paid content. I suppose it's connected to the rise of ad blocking. At the moment I'm not hosting any content of such kind myself, but I wanted to publish a game and I'm facing the same question. Should I sell my soul to the…

I run a free website and every year I do a one week fund raising for the costs. I don't have customers but a more or less dedicated community (some people are around for years, others come and go). The community always exceeds the amount I ask for.

This is a fantastic idea. "Hey, you guys obviously get a kick out of my website. Not asking for much - just enough that I can keep the site running and still awesome." I'd definitely pitch in $20 a year to a site that has entertained me for years.

The most immediate example that comes to mind is Wikipedia.

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by sp332 »

gpvos wrote: post #78
andybak wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you block any analytics tracker - even one that didn't share data with 3rd parties? (i.e. a tracker that was purely to enable to site owners to gain insight into their visitors)

No, I'm mostly concerned about cross-site sharing of data.

Me too. If I'm visiting a website, I don't mind the operator of the site knowing about my visit or getting some basic stats about usage. It's when they compare notes to make a larger map of my visits across the web that I start getting nervous. And when they use that data to target advertising to me, I start blocking them.

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by sergiotapia »

fridek wrote: post #35

Honest question - what business model for free content do you see other than ads? I understand all the privacy and distraction issues related, but increasingly many news sites I read feature only paid content. I suppose it's connected to the rise of ad blocking. At the moment I'm not hosting any content of such kind myself, but I wanted to publish a game and I'm facing the same question. Should I sell my soul to the…

I feel like I'm not missing out on anything from those news sites. I just don't visit them after I hit my 5/month limit. No big deal.

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by JoshTriplett »

fridek wrote: post #35

Honest question - what business model for free content do you see other than ads? I understand all the privacy and distraction issues related, but increasingly many news sites I read feature only paid content. I suppose it's connected to the rise of ad blocking. At the moment I'm not hosting any content of such kind myself, but I wanted to publish a game and I'm facing the same question. Should I sell my soul to the…

In terms of business models for free content: I'm a big fan of Patreon, and I use it to actively pay for a half-dozen sites and authors I enjoy. There are many more sites and authors I'd pay if they offered the option.

On the other hand, consider actually charging for your game. Or, alternatively, give the game away but charge a nominal amount for access to multiplayer servers, since that's a significant source of your costs.

Re: UBlock Origin

#95

Post by onli »

yathrowaway45 wrote: post #89
onli wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that this is actually true. Yes, gorhill started ublock and then handed it over, but chrisaljoudi just continued development and made some changes (like a call for donations). I'm not aware he did anything bad, and in the video he put up sounded just a bit unlucky, not like planning to do bad things ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D1TpddtVUA ). Or see https://www.reddit.com/r/ublock/comments/38lf1y/a…

>I'm not aware he did anything bad I don't have a good overview, but there was some stripping of authorship of patches. E.g. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues/69

Should've linked to the original in the commit message, but I still don't see evil intent there. That is just what happens if you are not careful, test things locally and when there is no proper PR - and you can't cherry-pick since it is from another repo.

Given that from what I see, this was intended to be a friendly cooperation, that shouldn't have been a problem.

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by nfoz »

fridek wrote: post #35

Honest question - what business model for free content do you see other than ads? I understand all the privacy and distraction issues related, but increasingly many news sites I read feature only paid content. I suppose it's connected to the rise of ad blocking. At the moment I'm not hosting any content of such kind myself, but I wanted to publish a game and I'm facing the same question. Should I sell my soul to the…

Good grief, we had an Internet full of fantastic content before the ads showed up. Universities, libraries, Governments and NGOs, donation- and government-funded organizations like many news/media agencies, stores/businesses, and just real people -- amateur and professional.

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by navait »

fridek wrote: post #35

Honest question - what business model for free content do you see other than ads? I understand all the privacy and distraction issues related, but increasingly many news sites I read feature only paid content. I suppose it's connected to the rise of ad blocking. At the moment I'm not hosting any content of such kind myself, but I wanted to publish a game and I'm facing the same question. Should I sell my soul to the…

Fairness is irrelevant - we take what we can as long as we can rationalize it.(surprisingly easy to do). Look at all the comments under you blaming you for not wanting to publish content without compensation.

Do what you must to be successful, because few will pay for things they don't have to pay for.

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by 746F7475 »

fridek wrote: post #35

Honest question - what business model for free content do you see other than ads? I understand all the privacy and distraction issues related, but increasingly many news sites I read feature only paid content. I suppose it's connected to the rise of ad blocking. At the moment I'm not hosting any content of such kind myself, but I wanted to publish a game and I'm facing the same question. Should I sell my soul to the…

Set up code on your site that detects that I'm using adblocker(s) and I won't visit your site.

It really is that simple. Either you bite the bullet and accept that some of us don't want random 3rd party code running on our browsers or you gate us away. We won't hold it against you.

I would prefer to have option in uBlock that notified me if I was about to enter a site that didn't want me viewing their content if I had adblock enabled, so I could avoid those sites.

As for games free with buyable skins seems to be working well with many games.

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by gorhill »

StavrosK wrote: post #25

I've tried uBlock a few times, but it's always been inferior to Ghostery. I want to choose what I block on each page, e.g. sometimes I want to load Disqus, sometimes I don't, etc. uBlock doesn't allow me to do any of that, does anyone know a lighter alternative to Ghostery that will still have sane lists and allow me to unblock elements on a per-page basis?

> I want to choose what I block on each page

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-qu...

uBlock doesn't restrict itself to a set list of domains (Ghostery), it will show you all connections.

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by gorhill »

varjag wrote: post #83
amalcon wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is blocking Google Analytics bad? Isn't blocking spyware like GA the main purpose of ad blocking software?

No, its main purpose is blocking ads. Those visibly (and sometimes audibly) annoying flashy things. It's in the name.

> No, its main purpose is blocking ads

I am well placed to speak about the main purpose of uBlock Origin. Here, from front page of the project:

> uBlock Origin (or uBlock₀) is not an ad blocker; it's a general-purpose blocker [...] Ads, "unintrusive" or not, are just the visible portions of privacy-invading apparatus entering your browser when you visit most sites nowadays. uBlock₀'s main goal is to help users neutralize such privacy-invading apparatus [...]

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