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Re: React Native is now open source

#91

Post by iheart2code »

MollyR wrote: post #88
burke wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] infringement of any patent… by Facebook… whether or not such claim is related to the Software. > The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] infringement of any patent… by any party if such claim arises… from any software, product or service of Facebook. > The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] infringement of any patent… by any party re…

That is a big excitement killer

So, basically, if you sue Facebook on grounds of patent/copyright infringement for any reason, you don't get to use their software?

Re: React Native is now open source

#92

Post by _jmar777 »

FreakyT wrote: post #84
jakejake wrote: post #81

Incredible on iOS. Android support... coming soon! This seems to be the case with a lot of cross-platform development kits. One or the other of the platforms is a second-class citizen. It seems that all of us are salivating at the idea of having true cross-platform tools that actually work really well on all environments so I will keep my fingers crossed that Facebook can pull it off.

Having used Facebook's Android app, I would probably count them out right off the bat. That app is complete junk -- it's slow, bloated, glitchy, and so greedy with permissions it makes a mockery of the whole system.

That's an interesting assessment. I've actually been generally impressed with it. Loads fast, seems to be pretty intelligent about caching profile images and the like, and is generally pretty responsive (on a Galaxy S5). It is pretty handsy with the permissions, though.

Re: React Native is now open source

#93

Post by jakejake »

augustl wrote: post #82
jakejake wrote: post #81

Incredible on iOS. Android support... coming soon! This seems to be the case with a lot of cross-platform development kits. One or the other of the platforms is a second-class citizen. It seems that all of us are salivating at the idea of having true cross-platform tools that actually work really well on all environments so I will keep my fingers crossed that Facebook can pull it off.

FWIW it won't be cross platform, it will be a separate implementation for Android. The goal is the model, not the write once pipe dream.

Looking at the name of the UI components, that definitely seems to be true, as a lot of them have "ios" appended to the class name. But, even if you're writing Objective C, you might have different storyboards for the phone vs the iPad. so I don't think it's unreasonable to have different views for the different devices.

My concern is that it actually works and isn't buggy as hell on one of the platforms, which is something that I haven't found from similar toolkits.

Re: React Native is now open source

#94

Post by emehrkay »

joslin01 wrote: post #56
freyr wrote: post #50

Should someone learning iOS development stick to vanilla iOS while learning, or would it be feasible to use React Native from the outset? I already have some React experience, and I have some React-based web app that I'd like to turn into native iOS app.

If you're learning iOS development, stick to learning iOS development. A framework, no matter how cool and neat it is, will not replace pure iOS development for serious apps. Also ask yourself a question, do you really think you can call yourself an iOS developer when the only way you truly know how to create apps is with React?

> do you really think you can call yourself an iOS developer when the only way you truly know how to create apps is with React?

I totally agree with you, but does it matter in the grand scheme of things? Look at web developers that only know frameworks. They may only know jQuery or only know Rails, but if they're still getting shit done, does it ultimately matter? There may come a day where that developer is required to go deeper than the lib/framework allows and they may be exposed or may be forced to learn more or they may drown because they never learned to swim.

This is interesting to me because it brings up the question of how important is mastery when there are deadlines?

Re: React Native is now open source

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Post by renaudg »

DevOps guy here, new to both JS and iOS, forgive the naive questions :

What proportion of iOS UI elements are available through React Native ? Is there a 1:1 mapping somehow, but how are discrepancies between platforms (Web/iOS/Android) handled then ?

Could a complex app's views realistically be built entirely using this or would you have to resort to native UI elements in some cases ? How well would they mix with React Native code ?

Re: React Native is now open source

#96

Post by laurencerowe »

zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

Are you be able to use BSD licensed code without additional patents grants?

Re: React Native is now open source

#97

Post by aikah »

freyr wrote: post #50

Should someone learning iOS development stick to vanilla iOS while learning, or would it be feasible to use React Native from the outset? I already have some React experience, and I have some React-based web app that I'd like to turn into native iOS app.

You should at least take a look at Swift. These frameworks are great when they work , but as soon as they don't ... imagine yourself looking at a stack trace of a language you don't understand and have to debug that shit ... You should at least get familiar with basic IOS , widgets, swift ...

Re: React Native is now open source

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Post by chrisdevereux »

zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

Any idea what there is in React that Facebook have or are likely to have Patents over? Presumably, using another React-like framework might open you up to issues with these without the (limited) protection of the patent grant.

Re: React Native is now open source

#99

Post by burke »

iheart2code wrote: post #91
MollyR wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a big excitement killer

So, basically, if you sue Facebook on grounds of patent/copyright infringement for any reason, you don't get to use their software?

Yes, and the license could easily be construed to imply that your license is immediately revoked if you tweet "Facebook infringes on patents".

Re: React Native is now open source

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Post by [deleted] »

burke wrote: post #27
zellyn wrote: post #7

The first thing I do now on each Facebook open-source reveal, is to check the PATENTS file for the toxic second paragraph, to see if they've changed it. Sadly, no. I can't imagine being able to use this at any decent-sized company with lawyers. :-( https://github.com/facebook/react-native/blob/master/PATENTS See for example the discussions at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9111849 (eg. https://news.ycombinator.…

> The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] infringement of any patent… by Facebook… whether or not such claim is related to the Software. > The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] infringement of any patent… by any party if such claim arises… from any software, product or service of Facebook. > The license… will terminate… for anyone that [claims] infringement of any patent… by any party re…

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