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Google announces Android for Work

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Re: Google announces Android for Work

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I suggest that anyone considering sharing a personal device with work activity (other than basic phone calls and messaging, e.g. "I'll be in late") think twice. Comes a security concern or conflict, someone's probably going to want access to the whole thing. If you want me to do "your work" on a phone -- particularly as an employee as opposed to as an independent contractor utilizing their own resources as defined in…

I'm a stickler about this. Beyond answering the odd phone call or message, I have a hard time seeing it as anything but the company unfairly attempting to externalize costs onto their employees. Just like you give me a work computer to do work related tasks on, the same should go for mobile devices. My employer used to be rather liberal but recently started clamping down on security. They wanted us communicating in t…

> Just like you give me a work computer to do work related tasks on, the same should go for mobile devices.

I'm issued a mobile phone by my employer. Today I don't have any option to "carve out" a niche for my personal activity on my phone. AFAIK they can know anything and everything. Google Play for Work sounds like it would help out here.

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So we're all going to code, write, etc. on four inch screens? Seriously why hasn't someone made a smart phone that "transforms" into a larger screen form factor when connected to a monitor? I could see Android phones doing this. I could never imagine iOS doing it-- Apple would never cannibalize Mac like that, and iOS is too jailed for anything "real." Of course apps would have to support it. But those that didn't cou…

The toolchain won't run on Android anyway. I would enjoy having, say, a Jolla or Ubuntu tablet that would run an Android toolchain. ChromeOS is doing fine in the laptop/netbook form factor. Trying to unify the touch and pointing-device worlds is what made Microsoft late to the party.

Check out AIDE.

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> a dedicated work profile that isolates and protects work data Oh wow, can this be used to just create a separate profile for every app? That way I can run Uber or Line without giving them every permission to everything? This is the biggest reason I do not install apps. Every "famous" app requests so many permissions it's just stupid. And not to mention the weirdness of some of them, like "WiFi Device Information".…

This is one place where iOS trumps Android. Per-permission switches on apps is really great.

There's also an issue with "leaky abstractions" on android, where some useful features require extremely invasive permissions.

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More "sandboxed" in the sense that iOS apps start in a small sandbox that gets progressively and opportunistically larger. Instead of demanding all permissions upon installation, they demand them contemporaneously with attempted access to certain resources. The idea is that user consent is more informed. In contrast, Android apps demand all of their permissions up front.

Even beyond that though, if an iOS app requests ALL possible permissions, it doesn't have the same capabilities that an android app does.

I consider that a weakness of iOS as a platform. There are some pretty cool and useful things you can do with an Android app that you just can't do on iOS, period.

Android's permission-granting model does leave much to be desired, though.

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So we're all going to code, write, etc. on four inch screens? Seriously why hasn't someone made a smart phone that "transforms" into a larger screen form factor when connected to a monitor? I could see Android phones doing this. I could never imagine iOS doing it-- Apple would never cannibalize Mac like that, and iOS is too jailed for anything "real." Of course apps would have to support it. But those that didn't cou…

Android phones /do/ do this. Pretty much all the phones released in the past 3-4 years support one of the mobile monitor connection specs that'll send either a displayport or hdmi signal through the USB port. I've not personally used it much, but it's something that I do know some people use a considerable amount of the time for connecting to a larger monitor, giving presentations, etc.

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Would secure-wiping the phone if involved in a legal discovery process be considered destruction of evidence? Does your advice apply when you're only using, say Exchange, as your only entry point (e.g. on iOS devices?) - in this case, all discovery can be done server-side. I find it hard pressed to think this issue hasn't been covered more rigorously.

Would secure-wiping the phone if involved in a legal discovery process be considered destruction of evidence? Yes, if it's not part of a routine process.

If you are already in litigation there is almost always a litigation hold, and you can't even wipe it as part of a routine process.

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I'm a stickler about this. Beyond answering the odd phone call or message, I have a hard time seeing it as anything but the company unfairly attempting to externalize costs onto their employees. Just like you give me a work computer to do work related tasks on, the same should go for mobile devices. My employer used to be rather liberal but recently started clamping down on security. They wanted us communicating in t…

> Just like you give me a work computer to do work related tasks on, the same should go for mobile devices. I'm issued a mobile phone by my employer. Today I don't have any option to "carve out" a niche for my personal activity on my phone. AFAIK they can know anything and everything. Google Play for Work sounds like it would help out here.

I was issued a work phone too. I decided it was much more worth it to carry around two phones, with my work phone in my bag for the .01% of the time they actually needed to get in touch with me. Work only needs to know my work number, they shouldn't, nor needn't, care what I do on the 80+% of the time I'm not on their clock.
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