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Re: Samsung's smart TVs are inserting unwanted ads into users' own movies

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That really doesn't make sense logically. The physical location of the computer doesn't affect whether it is proprietary or open source, or how frequently it will receive updates. The navigation on your phone is probably better than the one in your car right now, but when Apple or Google take over the car system market you will have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto in modern cars that have high quality software with fas…

Hardware refreshes are an absolute killer. I have a 2007 car, which works fine, and a 2010 iPad, which is no longer receiving OS updates. Welding the two together benefits neither. The best compromise would be car-as-peripheral; have all the buttons map to a USB HID device connected to a flush-fit tablet dock. Just remember not to bridge the UI directly to the same CAN bus as the fly-by-wire throttle.

"car-as-peripheral"

I have a 2300 pound, 2014 model year, gasoline powered bluetooth speaker, exactly as you suggest. In the showroom they had a "smart nav smart entertainment system" upgrade for only $1200 that was as much of a turd as the typical smart TV. Its hard to buy a dumb-stereo for a car that doesn't have BT pairing today.

Mostly I stream podcasts and audiobooks from my phone. Hit play on the phone, put the transmission in drive, thats my commute.

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Or do all of that and buy a dumb TV instead of the "smart" TV, putting the ~$200 savings into the NUC or other box. No sense in paying for a component you'll never use.

As others have noted here already, the smart TVs are quickly becoming the only thing you can buy now, at least in North America.

How aggressive are modern smart TVs?

The salesperson conned my MiL into buying a smart TV, and/or it was the only one available. She doesn't have internet, she's just not into it.

I could imagine a TV refusing to operate until its connected to the internet to upload your viewing habits and download new ads... but the smart TVs from a year or two ago were not that aggressive.

I would never connect one to my LAN. How can I know its security holes and upgrades and issues, how do I unbrick it once it inevitably gets owned, how do I virus scan or otherwise clean it up, its just too difficult and complicated compared to my simpler system. As long as they still operate without ever having a wifi connection, I'll be OK.

Edited to add, "the tv asked for my wifi password so I told it, what could possibly go wrong?" is going to be the next decades "someone on the internet asked me for my bank account number so I told him, what could possibly go wrong?" Right up there with browser toolbar installers.

Re: Samsung's smart TVs are inserting unwanted ads into users' own movies

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Attention Samsung mobile phone division! Malignancy detected in TV division! Excise without delay!

This sounds humorous, but it's also true; this will damage Samsung's reputation and affect everything sold under the name, not just televisions. The little bit of extra revenue goes to one division, but hurts the others, and they should take action to defend themselves. I would certain hesitate before buying a Samsung-branded phone, watch or VR headset now.

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Smart TVs are a terrible idea for the same reason that combined printer and scanners are a bad idea but with the negative aspect magnified many times. The cost and life expectancy of each part is very different and you don't want their replacement/upgrade to be tied together. A display panel should last you more than a decade and probably costs many 100s or 1000s. The 'smart' bit is probably worth less than $200 and…

I haven't bought a TV for five years (a Samsung, as it happens, plugged into a Roku). Can you even buy a TV that isn't smart these days?

Sort of, but if you want the best quality TV it's hard to avoid "smart" TVs. From wirecutter: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-tv/

>Is there a best TV with no apps (or 3D)?

>Not really. Nearly every TV worth considering is also a Smart TV. There used to be several great midrange “dumb” TVs, but they’re all pretty much gone. You don’t have to use them, and you’re probably still better off getting a media streamer (since they have more content sources). As far as 3D goes, we’re starting to see good TVs that lack 3D

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> By either selecting that I agree or by not selecting that I disagree, I agree to the Yahoo Connected TV Terms of Service Written under the deselected "I Agree" checkbox, with no "I disagree" option visible. This has to be some kind of record. And on a TV that you paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars, not in some spooky shareware download.

This reminds me of Android's terrible UI for opting in to GPS snoop recording^H^H^HGoogle Location Services: You can either (disagree) OR (agree and not answer again). It is not possible to to disagree once and for all! It's like they're trying to catch you off guard.

They are. Also when you enable GPS you enable it for everything, which also sucks. Maybe I want GPS to only work for the Nav app.

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Smart TVs are a terrible idea for the same reason that combined printer and scanners are a bad idea but with the negative aspect magnified many times. The cost and life expectancy of each part is very different and you don't want their replacement/upgrade to be tied together. A display panel should last you more than a decade and probably costs many 100s or 1000s. The 'smart' bit is probably worth less than $200 and…

I haven't bought a TV for five years (a Samsung, as it happens, plugged into a Roku). Can you even buy a TV that isn't smart these days?

TVs meant for commercial installations (hotels, hospitals, digital signage, etc) often either have no smart features, or have fully user-controllable smart features (e.g., think hotel menus).

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My Sony KDL-46HX853 also has poor performance for the Source button. When turning the TV on from "standby" it displays a "Please wait" when you press the source button within the first few seconds (I haven't timed it, but it's long enough to be annoying). Apart from that, stepping through the sources is problematic, with it being laggy to respond, pausing on certain sources, and causing you to overshoot. The next tim…

"Loading time" needs to be considered unacceptable by industry. It's really blatant. I was at a Subaru dealership, ready to plunk down on a brand new 2015 Impreza, when the guy told me they all have the touchscreen infotainment setup. I asked him to show it to me. We sat in the car, he turned the key, and the first thing that showed up on the screen was... a loading bar. I walked out and bought a 2011 Mazda. Making m…

I found this funny because the fourth generation Mazda MX-5 (Miata) is being released this year and just the fact that it has an infotainment system jutting out of the top of the dash is causing a lot of criticism.

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As others have noted here already, the smart TVs are quickly becoming the only thing you can buy now, at least in North America.

How aggressive are modern smart TVs? The salesperson conned my MiL into buying a smart TV, and/or it was the only one available. She doesn't have internet, she's just not into it. I could imagine a TV refusing to operate until its connected to the internet to upload your viewing habits and download new ads... but the smart TVs from a year or two ago were not that aggressive. I would never connect one to my LAN. How c…

In the future we'll have browser toolbar installers on the TV.

(Tangentially, does anyone else remember the awfulness of early 2000s WebTV? Mostly expressed through badly formatted usenet posts)

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