Surviving Anxiety

Post by manmal » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 11:37 AM UTC

throwaway_217 wrote: post #58

manmal wrote: post #21

I had anxiety years ago, with panic attacks whenever I was on a train for more than a few minutes. I was also constantly afraid of having contracted fatal diseases. No more. I did a lot of different probiotics (Mutaflor, some generic L-bacillus stuff, homemade kefir, Kombucha,...) in the last years, and anxiety has completely gone away. Here is some possible explanation: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-be…

Not sure if related, but my severe social anxiety started after I had a flu (as a kid, 2 weeks in bed) and was probably treated with antibiotics. I've just recently realized that there could be a connection. Haven't got rid of it. Edit: Just found this: http://www.scribd.com/doc/28819342/Experimental-Treatment-fo... I'm going to try it and report back.

Sure - I had antibiotics treatment early in life and had chronic diarrhea at age 3. Later, I was an outsider as a kid, and had difficulty making eye contact. There might be a connection.

Post by manmal » Tue, Jan 20, 2015, 11:51 AM UTC

slinkyavenger wrote: post #73

manmal wrote: post #21

I had anxiety years ago, with panic attacks whenever I was on a train for more than a few minutes. I was also constantly afraid of having contracted fatal diseases. No more. I did a lot of different probiotics (Mutaflor, some generic L-bacillus stuff, homemade kefir, Kombucha,...) in the last years, and anxiety has completely gone away. Here is some possible explanation: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/reading-be…

Would you go into more detail about this? I recently developed an annoying level of anxiety (complete with panic attacks) after a pretty long course of antibiotics.

Depending on where you are coming from (sceptic, or a more "relaxed" view of unscientific proceeds), you can try several things. Over at ubiome.com you can order a microbiome test and see what strains you are missing or deficient, and then go and take exactly those strains. They might be hard or impossible to come by, but this might be the more targeted approach.

What I did was just throwing lots of different (valid!) bacterial strains in, and see what comes of it (ubiome wasn't available back then, and regular lab tests are quite expensive). Kefir did the most for me, and it has different L.bacillus strains and some yeasts in it (http://ntur.lib.ntu.edu.tw/bitstream/246246/177589/1/04.pdf). Kefir is reported to kill off or starve strains that don't belong in its ecosystem, but it's quite possible that this is not true or that there is point beyond which the L.bacilli will die off and the unbeneficial strains take over. Smell and look are reportedly good indicators for that, but I didn't find any studies for that. One would have to send it into a lab to make sure.

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