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Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by djehuty »

jacquesm wrote: post #28
tsally wrote: post #9

Gandhi died before he was awarded the Peace Prize, even though he was nominated five times. Obama gets it less than a year into his Presidency? I like Obama, but that's just wrong.

Yep. It should be a prize for achievement, not for intentions. The Nobel Prize has just devalued considerably.

Kissinger, Begin, and Sadat all won it in the 70s. It's had zero credibility since then.

Which is a pity, because the clear purpose is to encourage rather than necessarily always to reward, and Obama's intentions definitely seem to be good.

Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by brazzy »

vijayr wrote: post #78
patio11 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes him the second American president to get a Peace Prize for not being George Bush, which the head of the Nobel Committee actually admitted to reporters when Carter got the award. I stopped caring about their opinion on anything after that. But the chairman of the secretive Norwegian Nobel Committee said bluntly that the award was meant to slam Bush's policy on Iraq. "With the position Carter has taken...(th…

Looks like George Bush is the "inspiration" for quite a few prizes

It's an achievement, of sorts.

Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by ananthrk »

jeromec wrote: post #71
kyro wrote: post #5

I'd like someone to inform me of one accomplishment of his that warrants his receiving of the award. And pushing a catchy a slogan of 'change,' to get elected, isn't one of them.

The predominant sentiment here seems to be Obama is a bad guy. I'm not saying he deserves the peace prize, but he didn't ask for it, nor, I'm sure, do anything he has done in pursuit of it. He didn't "push a catchy slogan of change" to get elected, at least, not the way you portray it. He adopted his "change" mantra from his earliest days as a politician, actually as a community group organizer. He sympathized with t…

"The predominant sentiment here seems to be Obama is a bad guy"

You got this wrong. Most of them are only questioning the thought-process of the nobel committee (in awarding the prize to Obama) and not of Obama, the person.

Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by Yrlec »

ugh wrote: post #69
jacquesm wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. It should be a prize for achievement, not for intentions. The Nobel Prize has just devalued considerably.

Nobel Peace Prize. No reason to drag the other Nobels into that.

Especially since the Nobel Peace Price is awarded by a committee of five people elected by the Norwegian Parliament. All other comittees are Swedish. Alfred Nobel's intention with this was to improve Sweden-Norway relations.

Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by olefoo »

tomjen2 wrote: post #8

He didn't deserve that - he haven't even closed gitmo yet.

That is correct, we have not closed the prison camp at Guantanamo, nor have we ceased extraordinary renditions, nor apparently have we ceased to commit torture as a matter of policy. While the Nobel Peace Prize is by it's very nature a political tool intended to promote the political goal it is named for; in this case it feels rather premature.

It does seem like an award that was directed more against his predecessor than one that he is inherently deserving of.

Edit: for correction.

Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by nice1 »

jacquesm wrote: post #28
tsally wrote: post #9

Gandhi died before he was awarded the Peace Prize, even though he was nominated five times. Obama gets it less than a year into his Presidency? I like Obama, but that's just wrong.

Yep. It should be a prize for achievement, not for intentions. The Nobel Prize has just devalued considerably.

It devalued already a few years ago. This is indeed sad, even for Barack Obama, who may one day deserve a "real" Nobel Prize.

Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by ErrantX »

jacquesm wrote: post #28
tsally wrote: post #9

Gandhi died before he was awarded the Peace Prize, even though he was nominated five times. Obama gets it less than a year into his Presidency? I like Obama, but that's just wrong.

Yep. It should be a prize for achievement, not for intentions. The Nobel Prize has just devalued considerably.

In my personal opinion is devalued when they gave it to Al-Gore for making a scare-tactic film on global warming :) (Im not commenting on global warming at all BTW - that is another issue - but the film was pure scare tactic bullshit, which devalued the issue more than raising any awareness. Stuff like that shouldn't be awarded :()

I do agree; the only thing I can think is that Obama has achieved quite a bit so far (getting elected in the first place for example). But your right - at least wait till hes had his term(s) and then consider...

All the reports quote a Nobel guy saying they are doing it to support his ideas/ideals - so it looks like a political move.

Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by nice1 »

djehuty wrote: post #91
jacquesm wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. It should be a prize for achievement, not for intentions. The Nobel Prize has just devalued considerably.

Kissinger, Begin, and Sadat all won it in the 70s. It's had zero credibility since then. Which is a pity, because the clear purpose is to encourage rather than necessarily always to reward, and Obama's intentions definitely seem to be good.

Not to mention Al Gore; that one will look really stupid RSN, given how people are starting to understand what a hoax "global warming" is.

Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by bitdiddle »

I'm hopeful that this prize provides a needed boost to his efforts. Obama has made great progress in restoring America's role in the world. He has the opportunity to make great progress on world peace and this prize is a strong vote of confidence in those efforts.

Well done! I'll be curious to see where he donates the money, though he's not a wealthy man financially, he might want to keep some of it.

Re: Barack Obama gets Nobel's Peace Prize

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Post by statictype »

patio11 wrote: post #58
AndrewDucker wrote: post #24

So, basically he gets an award for not being George Bush?

This makes him the second American president to get a Peace Prize for not being George Bush, which the head of the Nobel Committee actually admitted to reporters when Carter got the award. I stopped caring about their opinion on anything after that. But the chairman of the secretive Norwegian Nobel Committee said bluntly that the award was meant to slam Bush's policy on Iraq. "With the position Carter has taken...(th…

Was that a tongue-in-cheek comment on Gore being the actual president? Or a typo? Or is there some other president I'm not aware of?
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