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Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by felixgallo »

ethomson wrote: post #35
Ecio78 wrote: post #8

Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…

I think VS Community Edition is great, but what I think is mindblowingly amazing is that it's free " for contributing to open source projects ". (Disclaimer: Microsoft employee.)

That was definitely an eyebrow raiser. Here's to hoping you guys keep this sort of thing up.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by aquadrop »

atlantic wrote: post #16

I've been using VS 2013 Community for a few days now, for C#/MVC work. I can't see the difference in relation to the paid version. All the features I habitually make use of are available. A very nice surprise.

Essentially, they just made Pro version free for small companies and individual developers, and open source of all size.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by teh_klev »

runjake wrote: post #89
teh_klev wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This movement with Microsoft has been going on long before Satya took over the reins. I'd say Scott Guthrie probably seeded this goal to become more open (-source) around 2007/8. It's taken a while to achieve because...lawyers.

My impression is that it's taken a while to achieve primarily because of leadership roadblocks, which Nadella changed. I've heard this from MSFT employees and I believe Ballmer made a post-retirement comment in an interview about the same: that this all started after he left.

Oh I totally agree that upper management roadblocks slowed things down and that Nadella is a breath of fresh air compared to Ballmer (though I do have a soft spot for the man). But the seeds were sown by division staff such as Guthrie (and Hanselmann, Phil Haack etc) as far back as 2007, long before Nadella became a rising star, this isn't all as a result of Nadella's Perestroika and Glasnost. That said there may have been informal conversations between Guthrie and Nadella over the years speculating as to how they could change direction.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by smurfpandey »

blueatlas wrote: post #79
Ecio78 wrote: post #8

Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…

It's not clear to me how this applies to agencies/development shops. Say small agency (< 10 developers) writing apps for their clients, some of which are enterprises.

For small agency(non-enterprise org), only 5 developers can use VS community edition.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by sequence7 »

badgersandjam wrote: post #84
sequence7 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main value of an MSDN subscription is all the subscriber downloads and the Azure credits you get. Want to try out or develop against any piece of MS software, just download it from the MSDN portal and off you go. Want to test out provisioning with Azure or fire up a server to test or dev against, just use your Azure credits. You can happily run a couple of small servers with the Azure credits. If you just want Vi…

I get bugger all Azure credits with Pro. £35 a month which isn't enough to spin up one VM with 1.75Gb of RAM for a month... If I grab MAPS sub and VS community I'm well up on cash.

£35 a month will get you four A0 Windows/Linux instances or a single Linux A1 and a single Windows/Linux A0 running full time for the month.

http://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/pricing/details/virtual-mac...

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by robert_nsu »

pjmlp wrote: post #25
pherocity_ wrote: post #9

How is this different from Express versions?

Besides what is referred in sibling posts: - DirectX debugging tools, including GPGPU - Parallel code debugging - MFC and ATL for those that still need to support such type of applications - 64 bit compilers - DDK integration - Sharepoint integration

Also templates for Windows Services and other project types that aren't included with the express versions.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by ElongatedTowel »

Should msvc be the go-to compiler on Windows for C++? I was getting back into the language and was quickly reminded of all the compiler and dependency hazzle, especially when coding for several operating systems. On top of that some older solutions aren't even a good idea anymore, like the whole mingw vs mingw-w64 crap.

Seems to me that from a precompiled binary and build management perspective it's just the easiest way to use whatever is best supported on each platform. Which seems to be clang on MacOS, gcc/clang on Linux and msvc on Windows.

I had to use chromiumembeddedframework in one project and compiling it with gcc or clang on Windows isn't even a choice. Even if there is a way to get it to work, it's a huge project that takes quite a lot of resources to build. Even if it was easy, prebuild is still a lot faster.

With the newest version always beeing free and tools like CMake beeing able to generate projects the only downside I can see is that msvc would dictate the features I'm able to use.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by wfjackson »

BloatControl wrote: post #46
drapper wrote: post #17

In my previous experiences with VS Express the installed version took about 10GBs of disk space and included plenty of stuff I didn't want or cared about, like various versions of MS SQL Server, support for VB, different runtimes for .NET, etc. Anyone knows if there's a way to avoid that? I'd like to have "just an IDE", for node and web development.

Welcome to the Mickysoft BloatWorld. And do not forget to get the new 700+ MB Update, so you can live up to even more bloat - this update alone flatulated 5+ GB on the harddrives I have seen. This is not just about "style" or "personal preference", it is a serious problem: it eats too much energy and therefore destroys the planet, millions of old but perfectly usable devices are transformed into highly dangerous toxi…

I'll bite the troll in the off chance you're serious.

Wait, Open Source is magically free of bloatware? OpenOffice, Firefox, KDE?

Try running a modern Linux desktop distro like Ubuntu on a 10 year old machine or a 5 year old netbook. Open ten tabs with sites like Gmail, YouTube etc. in Firefox on that machine and then get back to us.

And since Windows 7, the minimum requirements have been steady and boot time has been pretty fast.

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000020.html

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by m3sh »

bovermyer wrote: post #42

A lot of people seem to think that steps like this are just Microsoft catching up. Which, I suppose, they are. But there's something else here too - this kind of thing, where Microsoft is opening up to the open source community, releasing more free tools, releasing more open source projects, all started happening when Satya Nadella took the reins. I think what we're looking at is a CEO that gets it and is trying to m…

http://www.wired.com/2011/11/how-microsoft-learned-to-stop-w... this article actually gives a very good information about how things started to change.

Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free

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Post by badgersandjam »

sequence7 wrote: post #95
badgersandjam wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get bugger all Azure credits with Pro. £35 a month which isn't enough to spin up one VM with 1.75Gb of RAM for a month... If I grab MAPS sub and VS community I'm well up on cash.

£35 a month will get you four A0 Windows/Linux instances or a single Linux A1 and a single Windows/Linux A0 running full time for the month. http://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/pricing/details/virtual-mac...

Yeah I know. The A0 with windows server is painful. If I got an A1 for £30 I'd break even on renting a dedicated box. That's the big pain.
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