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Again, all it means is that it's OEM crapware free.
So if the OEM didn't install anything aside from a completely standard (albeit old) Windows 8 install, then this is Microsoft's intended behavior of Windows? What else would cause any issues with the OS out-of-the-box aside from OS problems if the OEM didn't add anything?
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As one of those people who believe Apple's hardware is overpriced, this story doesn't change my opinion on Apple's hardware. I recognize the quality in Apple's devices but I believe the price point is way higher than the extra quality found in their products. I've even recommended a MacBook to someone recently. Mainly for 2 reasons; their needs aligned with what the MacBook Pro would provide them with and they weren'…
Not to mention putting together a collection of stories like this would give Apple fans a fallacious reference for why everyone should "just get a mac". Sorry, if a Mac doesn't fit my needs, I'm going to use a normal personal computer, not a walled garden. Doesn't matter how many obstacles I need to get through if I need a real personal computer, not someone else's ecosystem.
My desktop machine runs linux - currently it's ubuntu, but it over the last ~6 years it's also been centos, debian, and arch. I love linux.
Two weeks ago a started a new job and got a macbook pro. I love it - and am completely surprised by it.
I have not run into a single thing that I could do on linux I can't do on osx.
Consider yourself lucky you even got windows 8 installed. My lenovo laptop, with a big fat windows 8 sticker on it and win 8 screaming all over the purchase page, came with windows 7 preinstalled. Win 8 came with a bunch of dvds inside the packaging, the laptop does not even have a dvd-player.
You can download Windows 8 free online, and enter into the serial on the CDs when it comes time to register. (Windows 7 was the first Windows OS that was fully installable from a downloaded or USB-stick copy.)
I guess i could easily get a key from lenovos support but i really don't care much anyway, win 7 works great. I just find the whole experience a great example of how badly pc manufacturers consider the "whole package" experience of their products.
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> The stock trackpad driver Why is this even a thing? Why is the trackpad not simply a compliant USB HID device that can be recognized by the standard OS install? What the hell are PC manufacturers doing?
Even Microsoft's mice and keyboards don't work when you first plug them in, Windows has to spin its wheels and "install a driver" (which it notifies you about) before they will work. If you're online with Windows Update, your computer will then offer to download some sort of control center for your mouse and keyboard. It's absolutely ridiculous.
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To be fair I've found Asus notebooks to be superb value for money hardware-wise, it's the drivers and software out of the box that are the problem.
I've switched to a macbook many years ago because of the drivers and software of my windows machine. Hardware is worthless without the software driving it, and in my experience the hunt/hacking of the problematic drivers comes back at every new major version of windows/linux you'll install on the box. In this respect, superb value hardware with crappy software is only worth it if you are willing to be tinkering on a…
I'm definitely willing to tinker, and it was certainly frustrating to get right, but now it's one my favorite devices. But if you're not a little tech-savvy it wouldn't be a good purchase.
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So if the OEM didn't install anything aside from a completely standard (albeit old) Windows 8 install, then this is Microsoft's intended behavior of Windows? What else would cause any issues with the OS out-of-the-box aside from OS problems if the OEM didn't add anything?
Drivers.
Also, I think having so many manufacturers makes things worse. Other than hardware specs, there really is veryt little to differentiate feature-wise between different PCs. Android is starting to run into this problem as well. The "customizations" and "improvements" aka bloated buggy shit layered on top of the vanilla OS completely messes up the user experience.
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I should start an online collection of stories like this, so I could refer people to it when they complain about Apple hardware being overpriced and/or only bought by idiots.
I own a Mac, but I recognize that Apple hardware is often grossly overpriced. For example, a 2014 Mac mini with a laptop-grade 3Ghz dual-core CPU, 16GB of RAM, a 512GB SSD, and an integrated GPU costs $1,699. That's ridiculous.
In short, you've picked what even Apple sites and enthusiasts claim is their worst choice.
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Not to mention putting together a collection of stories like this would give Apple fans a fallacious reference for why everyone should "just get a mac". Sorry, if a Mac doesn't fit my needs, I'm going to use a normal personal computer, not a walled garden. Doesn't matter how many obstacles I need to get through if I need a real personal computer, not someone else's ecosystem.
I'm curious what needs can't be met by using a mac. My desktop machine runs linux - currently it's ubuntu, but it over the last ~6 years it's also been centos, debian, and arch. I love linux. Two weeks ago a started a new job and got a macbook pro. I love it - and am completely surprised by it. I have not run into a single thing that I could do on linux I can't do on osx.