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Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

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Why no sugar/food after dark? Any links?

Food provides energy and when it isn't burned turns into fat.

Looks like the juries out and many evidence still points to the total amount of calories in/out over the day is the only defining factor.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/diet-truth-myth-eating-ni...

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

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Maybe I'm a bit paranoid but, even though afaik no proper research has found evidence of it, maybe putting a device that is constantly using wifi right next to your brain for the entire night might not be the best idea healthwise?

It isn't torrenting all night long, how many packets does it even send?

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

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I know this thing is personal/individual, and different books give difference advice, but we just had our baby boy sleep with us, until he was about 8 months old (quite long, I know, and our bed is pretty small). You really learn a lot about his patterns, movements, and you just feel him around. No need for monitors, setting things on/off, and no. We didn't suffocate him or squashed him. It was very natural to us (an…

Yeah I think that would have been a nice thing to do, but there's no way we could after all the scare stories we were told.

Unless you sleepwalk, or are a 'flailer' there's little risk to sleeping with an infant in bed with you.

Idea for testing it out:

get a cabbage patch doll, hard boil an egg and shell it, put the egg in a clear ziplock bag, and tape the bag to doll. Check if it's squished in the morning. You may need multiple eggs on different limbs, maybe multiple eggs per bag, to account for the full size of the doll.

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

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What affects my sleep isn't me setting my alarm for the wrong time, it's my 13 week old baby. I'm sure I've seen a few things like this in the past. I wonder if they could adopt it for use as a baby monitor? We do currently have a sleep monitor but that just sets off an alarm if she hasn't moved in 20 seconds (or I pick her up and forget to turn the damn thing off, grrrr). I could see this being a really useful baby…

Babies need to eat/nurse frequently. We've evolved to be highly dependent on our parents until a fairly old age. The solution that worked for us was for the baby to sleep in our bed next to mom. Then this whole wake/nurse cycles basically happens without fully waking up. I realize some people are concerned about rolling on the baby but this is extremely rare/improbable for normal/healthy people. It's a somewhat contr…

As for the rollover issue, many folks co-sleep with their babies. We did it with all 3 of ours. Apparently babies really really like your breath - the CO2 helps them develop their lung motion.

The key is to not be inebriated or taking sleeping meds while doing so.

There are also co-sleeper attachments that make cribs accessible to mommy without having the baby sleep on the bed and thus not ever in danger of rollover.

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I grabbed a Beddit ( http://www.beddit.com/ ) off Indiegogo, which does something similar. Compared to Fitbit (put something on; remember to start it), apps (remember to start it) and others, I was hoping it would be frictionless -- hop into bed, start collecting metrics. Unfortunately, aside from the long (long) time required to deliver a useful Android app, it's failed me in a few ways. 1. You need the app running…

My Basis band addresses your point 1 quite well; all I have to do is wear it to bed. Unfortunately, there's no good API (and your choice of three variously lousy ones [1]), and it syncs in the same way as the Beddit does, i.e., via Bluetooth to a phone. (Or via USB to a computer, but that's not much more help.) I've thought about trying to MITM the data on its way out from the PC to Basis's sync endpoint, in order to…

Oh man i really wanted a basis to replace my boddy bugg, it seemed like it had everything to do well in that space.

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

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The body works amazingly well when taken care of and listened too. Really. Instead of hyper tracking every aspect of your life [and making assumptions based on that data] Just exercise, eat well, no caffeine, minimal sugar/food after dark, get 10+min of sun around noon, go to sleep when tired. All of which is almost impossible for 90% of people who are forced into regimented, high stress, excessive work lives.

While I agree with the sentiment here, the actual mechanics just don't hold true for plenty of people. Certainly the 80/20 rule probably applies: your suggestions will fix a great many issues for many people, and it's definitely worth reminding most people to make several of the changes you suggest -- particularly exercise and sleep.

But if the recipe was really that simple for all people, more of us would experience more success.

Humans are complex. Not mechanistically complex, stochastically. We're chaotic. One set of inputs may produce different outputs, and reverse-engineering the reasons for those differences may be "hard" or impossible. Apps and tracking devices can help reveal small areas where a fractional improvement in control or quality can have very large beneficial effects.

Lifestyles and other highly personal factors mean that the application of a simple single formula will be met with varying success. And anyway, you have to measure the outcomes to understand how successful the intervention has been.

I'd also point out that just because you feel well, it doesn't mean that your lifestyle or body (or mind) are healthy. Some attempt at objective data is useful to determine if you're really as healthy as you think you are. Sure, you may feel great if you get regular sleep every night. But did you know your sleep apnea puts you at increased risk of cardiovascular disease?

Edit: probably a better example... You may feel perfectly fine sitting down for several hours per day. But you're at increased risk of a whole range of diseases. A timer set to beep evey 20 minutes to remind you to get up and move may actually add years to your life.

This isn't a defence of lifestyle or health/fitness apps and so on, just a recognition that they work for some people, and for some circumstances. Or so it appears. This is the start of a vast, poorly coordinated longitudinal experiment. We'll be poring over the data for years yet.

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This is, sadly, advice which gets ignored by an overwhelming number of people in our industry. I know so many otherwise smart folks who buy a FitBit and track their caloric intake only to then drive (not go outside and walk) 2 blocks to get lunch at McDonalds or someplace similar. You don't need a product/app to live a healthy lifestyle... most likely if you are trying to solve a health/lifestyle problem by purchasin…

> most likely if you are trying to solve a health/lifestyle problem by purchasing something, that is just symptomatic of yet another unhealthy aspect of your lifestyle Tell that to the thirty pounds I've lost, over the last couple months, by dint of using a Basis band to track calories out, and logging what I eat to do the same for calories in.

Could you have done it without the band though?

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

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I grabbed a Beddit ( http://www.beddit.com/ ) off Indiegogo, which does something similar. Compared to Fitbit (put something on; remember to start it), apps (remember to start it) and others, I was hoping it would be frictionless -- hop into bed, start collecting metrics. Unfortunately, aside from the long (long) time required to deliver a useful Android app, it's failed me in a few ways. 1. You need the app running…

I'm fairly happy with the Beddit, but it sucks compared to the Zeo (Actimetry like WakeMate, Beddit, and now Sense is really inferior to EEG based monitoring). Sadly, Zeo went out of business, and the electrodes are consumable, so I'm stuck trying to find used ones, or find a way to make a compatible headband (anyone have advice?)

I was hoping the Melon would actually ship, but it looks non-wearable at night.

Beddit is kind of a pain because launching the app on my phone is a pain; it requires manually pairing each time.

I'd really like a network-connected, adaptive-scheduling clock next to my bed, with EEG input. Something which could wake me up early if traffic to work is bad, or let me sleep late if my flight is delayed. Ideally with a home version which does NOT use my cellphone, and a travel version which is compatible and uses my phone.

I'd be fine paying $500 for this. There is probably a market in the tens of thousands.

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