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Re: GoTenna – Send and receive messages even when you don’t have service

#91
A consumer-friendly, open version of amateur radio's APRS network would be really cool. This seems like the first step, though I don't know if they intend to open the protocol.

Also, 50 mile range sounds great, but that's under "ideal" conditions, which happens roughly never. I'm curious what the range would be in the real world.

Re: GoTenna – Send and receive messages even when you don’t have service

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All transmissions are end-to-end encrypted, unless you use the "shout" or "emergency" features which are, by definition, messages to everyone within range of you.

For those who care about security, is there an article to read for further details on that?

Hi! I'm on the mobile development team here at goTenna. We're taking advantage of the Bluetooth LE standard encyption with is AES-CCM. More on that here: http://bit.ly/1teKWvG

For encrypting the data as it's sent between gotennas we're using 1024 bit RSA. Not sure what level of detail you'd like.. but here are a few things to get you started!

RSA itself: http://bit.ly/1kDlTgP Cryptographic Services: http://bit.ly/1teLhPb More on CDSA (see above articles first): http://bit.ly/Ug2CLt

Much of our approach is fairly standard!

Re: GoTenna – Send and receive messages even when you don’t have service

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I am reading, it runs on Multi-Use Radio Service (MURS). i.e. 151-154 Mhz spectrum. Excerpt From https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-02-139A1.p... Under the revised rules, MURS units are: • Permitted to have detachable antennas; • Permitted to have external antennas up to 6.1 meters (20 feet) above a structure or 18.3 meters (60 feet) above the ground, whichever is higher; • Permitted to have…

They also explicitly forbid store-and-forward operations.

Can anyone provide some insight into why this would be? What's the intention of these restrictions?

Re: GoTenna – Send and receive messages even when you don’t have service

#94
@Daniela I hope you aren't exhausted by all these, but X would be cool comments. If not: A walkie-textie would be cool, something less expensive and fragile (as emilv said) than a smartphone with a keyboard instead of a touch screen. Is there a serial interface to gotenna?

Re: GoTenna – Send and receive messages even when you don’t have service

#96

@Daniela I hope you aren't exhausted by all these, but X would be cool comments. If not: A walkie-textie would be cool, something less expensive and fragile (as emilv said) than a smartphone with a keyboard instead of a touch screen. Is there a serial interface to gotenna?

I believe you're asking if there's a user interface to goTenna? If so, not in the current device. The UI is your smartphone -- the point is to conform to consumer behavior (i.e. the way you already text on your phone).

Re: GoTenna – Send and receive messages even when you don’t have service

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post #95

Can we get rid of this trend of having such media-heavy product pages? The HTML5 header video is nifty, but the page is ~20MB to load. Is that really necessary to describe a product?

It's not like I disagree but discussing this aspect of every new thing that comes along is rather tiresome.

Re: GoTenna – Send and receive messages even when you don’t have service

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post #84
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Interesting ... does this do any kind of store and forward or relaying? Say I send a message to a friend who happens to be out of range, but there was another GoTenna user who neither of us know, but who is in range of us both, will it relay the message via this 3rd party (encrypted) or is it purely a direct connection between sender --> receiver?

We want to do that, but FCC regulations don't enable meshing (currently) on the bands we're using (151-154 MHz, aka the MURS band). We considered releasing a 900 MHz device that the FCC allows to mesh but then you only get, if you're lucky, up to 0.5 km range and it has to be line-of-sight. So we went with MURS because you can get greater range and don't have to be line-of-sight; the propagation characteristics are b…

How often are you getting non-line-of-sight propagation with MURS?

Re: GoTenna – Send and receive messages even when you don’t have service

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post #84
post #3

Interesting ... does this do any kind of store and forward or relaying? Say I send a message to a friend who happens to be out of range, but there was another GoTenna user who neither of us know, but who is in range of us both, will it relay the message via this 3rd party (encrypted) or is it purely a direct connection between sender --> receiver?

We want to do that, but FCC regulations don't enable meshing (currently) on the bands we're using (151-154 MHz, aka the MURS band). We considered releasing a 900 MHz device that the FCC allows to mesh but then you only get, if you're lucky, up to 0.5 km range and it has to be line-of-sight. So we went with MURS because you can get greater range and don't have to be line-of-sight; the propagation characteristics are b…

Would it be possible to build a software-level mesh on top of these devices even though they don't officially support meshing? In other words, could someone build an iPhone app that implements some sort of decentralized DNS and routes messages, even though the hardware can't do that on it's own?
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