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Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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ntakasaki wrote: post #69
runarb wrote: post #20

Has I understood this correctly? Microsoft, a private company, has been granted the right to filter all dns traffic, and choose what will bee forward to this other company, No-IP. No-IP will so bee allowed to run there service for the remaining customers Microsoft approves? Is this common practices in the us legal system? Would it work like this in the offline world also? If my neighbor sometimes had loud parties tha…

>If my neighbor sometimes had loud parties that bothered me, could I be granted the right to stand in front of his door What if they were bothering 7.4 million people and inconveniencing many more? And then didn't show up in court in spite of summons? The police or courts will take that far more seriously.

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Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by hsod »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #86
andylei wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not clear who determines what "sufficient steps" would be its perfectly clear. the courts.

Well, no, it isn't perfectly clear from the article - are the courts in a position to independently evaluate No-IP's efforts, or did they trust Microsoft's legal team regarding their insufficiency?

isn't this how all lawsuits work all the time? there's a finding of fact where each side presents arguments.

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by DINKDINK »

Zancarius wrote: post #14

> On June 26, the court granted our request and made Microsoft the DNS authority for the company’s 23 free No-IP domains, allowing us to identify and route all known bad traffic to the Microsoft sinkhole and classify the identified threats. Something about this bothers me. So the courts granted MS the rights to essentially take over No-IP's DNS in order to "identify" ... "bad traffic?" The implications of this are...…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namecoin Distributed DNS is the only solution

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by AJ007 »

ntakasaki wrote: post #66
teraflop wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Arguably the net effect in this particular case was positive, but I can easily imagine reading this press release in a parallel universe: "Today, Sony Pictures has upped the ante against global cybercrime, taking legal action to clean up piracy... We're taking YouTube to task as the owner of infrastructure frequently exploited by cybercriminals to infringe copyrights by uploading unauthorized movie clips... O…

Isn't that close to what happened to Mega Upload and domain handed over to the government?

Exactly. Here is another one:

Microsoft failed to secure Windows XP against malware and botnets, so all Windows XP users will now be redirected to Ubuntu.com when they try to access the internet through Internet Explorer.

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by hendersoon »

rblatz wrote: post #72

Their status twitter is interesting, they aren't going into any details as to why their service stopped working, and they haven't made any statements about the accusations against them. https://twitter.com/NoIPStatus

No-ip's official response is here:

https://www.noip.com/blog/2014/06/30/ips-formal-statement-mi...

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by spion »

TallGuyShort wrote: post #55
vfclists wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wholly predictable downvoting by anonymously cowardly Microsoft brown-nosers.

Fine. I downvoted you, and it's no longer anonymous. I downvoted you because both of your comments were filled with passionate garbage rather than any well-reasoned thought. I'd be willing to bet other downvoters were not simply cowardly Microsoft brown-nosers.

Its hard to stay calm if you were relying on no-ip's services for very legitimate purposes. Maybe the action coming from Microsoft is whats garbage - not the resulting emotional outbursts.

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by andmarios »

diminoten wrote: post #74
andmarios wrote: post #52

Which dynamic DNS service will be next? But I have a better idea. Windows are an easy target for cybercriminals; maybe someone should step up and take Microsoft down.

What kind of a thug do you have to be to think like this?

A microsoft employee probably.

Re: Microsoft takes down No-IP.com domains

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Post by meowface »

jlogsdon wrote: post #5
pktgen wrote: post #3

FWIW, in my experience, No-IP is very, very responsive and helpful to abuse complaints. Though that is the extent of my experience with them, I've never thought them to be actively harboring malicious activity (unlike, say, CloudFlare).

> unlike, say, CloudFlare Care to elaborate?

As a security analyst, Cloudflare is a great friend and a terrible enemy. I've had numerous scenarios where I request information or takedowns of websites hosting blatantly malicious content, and not only do they refuse to cancel service, but they won't even give you the real IP address of the domain even if you have considerable evidence that abusive content is hosted there.

The most they'll do is give you the name of the hosting company, and even then getting that is like pulling a tooth. And of course, once you contact the hosting company, it can become like a chicken-and-egg problem "you'll need to contact the DNS provider so I know what server this is being hosted on." A hosting provider that issues thousands of VPSs and has a big IP space may not be able to find the offending user just given a domain name.

On the plus side, I use Cloudflare on many of my sites for the free DDoS protection, IP anonymizing, and anti-bot features. So far it's been great.

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