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Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

#92

"Huge for developers. Massive for everyone else." "Completely new. Completely Mac." I find meaningless slogans like these really disgusting and annoying. And it's not just Apple, every second startup does this.

annoying I could understand but "really disgusting"? what is it that bothers you so much?

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

#93
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We changed the url for this story from http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/02/apple-introduces-ios-8 . If we pick the wrong url, happy to change it again, so let us know. The goal is to have one discussion about each significant announcement, and have the best url for each.

I like the techcrunch url better, thanks for including it in the comment at least.

A third-party editorial review is much more useful to me than a marketting brochure.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

#94

"Huge for developers. Massive for everyone else." "Completely new. Completely Mac." I find meaningless slogans like these really disgusting and annoying. And it's not just Apple, every second startup does this.

I don't like it either, but that kind talk that has been around for as long as people have had something to sell.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

#95

"Huge for developers. Massive for everyone else." "Completely new. Completely Mac." I find meaningless slogans like these really disgusting and annoying. And it's not just Apple, every second startup does this.

Slogans and mottos and such have a long history (to the extent that a lot of them are written in Latin because the practice was common when Latin was a living language) and rarely say much concrete.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

#96
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I don't have an iPhone, but I just can't understand why the keyboard cannot be lowercase when you're writing in lowercase. I just don't understand the motivation.

I'm glad it doesn't. WebOS does this, and I find it jarring to have the entire keyboard twitch every time I hit the shift key. I much prefer Apple's approach.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

#97
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Please look past the hype, malware on phones is a near non-issue. Need I remind you that it was iOS devices being hijacked by hackers, not Android devices? Claims like "99% of malware exist on Android" didn't prevent Apple users across the west from having their devices hijacked for ransom. And no, Apple isn't threatened by the "competition". I'm just saying: from the perspective of a tech-forward developer who spend…

> Claims like "99% of malware exist on Android" didn't prevent Apple users across the west from having their devices hijacked for ransom. The feature used for this - remote locking of a stolen/lost phone - is present on both Android and iOS, as are weak passwords. That you're acting like that's an issue with the hardware/software involved is a good indication that you're trolling or fanboying.

"That you're acting like that's an issue with the hardware/software involved is a good indication that you're trolling or fanboying."

I'm pointing out that just because Tim Cook makes a random hypey statement, it doesn't MEAN anything. I rightfully showed that iOS, without malware, is suffering from hijacks that aren't occurring in Android. Personally, if remote locking is capable of a hijack, I'd call that malware, but that's just semantics.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

#98
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Why? The intends system of Android is amazing, and I use it heavily. It was absolutely a blocker for me switching to iOS.

Because third party iOS developers are still second class citizens compared to Apple in-house developers. Google doesn't make third party developers second class citizens: it makes apps using the same tools and apis as available to everyone, and distributes them the same way that everyone else distributes their apps. This is a step forward for Apple, but for example: Safari will remain the only browser available on i…

> Safari will remain the only browser available on iOS

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/chrome-web-browser-by-google...

> ...meaning that any non-Safari browser will remain inferior by intentional design

But you just said Safari is the only browser?

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

#99
The attention to deal is mind boggling. If you missed the presentation, they said how many time they spent just trying to design a proper trash can.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

#100
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because third party iOS developers are still second class citizens compared to Apple in-house developers. Google doesn't make third party developers second class citizens: it makes apps using the same tools and apis as available to everyone, and distributes them the same way that everyone else distributes their apps. This is a step forward for Apple, but for example: Safari will remain the only browser available on i…

>> Apple's version of Safari will remain versions ahead of UIWebView meaning that any non-Safari browser will remain inferior by intentional design. My hope is that deep-linking can make this somewhat irrelevant. If you can deep link to Safari from where you'd otherwise use UIWebView, and design a system that allows you to return to the app you were in when you finish (an easy one, like letting the back button take y…

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