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Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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My company recently started using HipChat and I really like it. I expected to prefer IRC because of the standard, open protocol and the choice of clients, but the HipChat application works much more smoothly on my Linux desktop than any IRC client I've tried, and it's been adopted more widely across my organization than IRC ever was - making it much more useful, even if that really just comes down to marketing it to…

I have the opposite experience, HipChat runs like a dog: http://shiva.pw/hipchat_is_this_normal.jpg

That's HipChat 2.1.1013 running on x64 in Vmware 10.0.2 w/ 8gb of a total of 32gb allocated. Oh yea, I'm doing nothing in HipChat, just idling in a single channel, with two inactive conversations with AFK people open. The chat window contains no animated GIFs or Youtube vids or anything wild either.

I've been strongly considering switching to using a regular XMPP client especially since feature creep seems to be be bringing features I don't want (video chat etc)

Edit: I should add the view is filtered, the CPU load + memory usage in the top is from an encrypted filesystem backup currently running

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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People are making the valid comparison of Hipchat and Slack, which is to be expected. But, this is a deeper move by Atlassian. Atlassian's business model is still "All roads lead to JIRA/Confluence." It's why so many of their products are free. This isn't as much a Hipchat v. Slack/IRC/Google/Campfire move, as adding another road to JIRA.

The beauty of Slack, IMO, is in the nice integrations with everything I already use . Does Hipchat/JIRA/Confluence do that? (I honestly don't know) For a small team, there's no reason (for us at least) to move away from Trello, GitHub issues, etc.

The integrations that Atlassian tools provide are optimized for large businesses. One bill, SSO, bulk administration of users, etc. From a usability perspective, I'm not a fan of the Atlassian platform over other stacks, but they cater to the people who tend to call the shots.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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post #52

People are making the valid comparison of Hipchat and Slack, which is to be expected. But, this is a deeper move by Atlassian. Atlassian's business model is still "All roads lead to JIRA/Confluence." It's why so many of their products are free. This isn't as much a Hipchat v. Slack/IRC/Google/Campfire move, as adding another road to JIRA.

The beauty of Slack, IMO, is in the nice integrations with everything I already use . Does Hipchat/JIRA/Confluence do that? (I honestly don't know) For a small team, there's no reason (for us at least) to move away from Trello, GitHub issues, etc.

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Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

#94
I wonder what the hosted pricing will be when it comes out of beta. At my work we will not even entertain something that cannot be hosted by us. Hipchat has saved 3 members of our 15 man team countless hours by integrating it into our workflow.

I if slack could be self hosted I would consider it but Hipchat has our support.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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Any thoughts/justifications for pricing? The only thing holding us back is that Slack costs 4x as much ($8 instead of $2). While this isn't a big spend at the end of the day, we're sort of anchored at $2. There's nothing terribly wrong with hipchat, seems to address all our (simple) chat needs, and switching to slack doesn't seem to give us 4x as much value. So far the best reasoning I have is that we're a mostly-dev…

Slack has IRC gateway, so you can use irssi for company chat. It might not be a big deal for you, but when we were briefly using Slack at previous company, I loved that I could just add it as another network to irssi.

One could use Bitlbee to connect irssi (or any other irc client) to a jabber server and not only.

http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

#98
Has anyone checked out Hall? It's chat, text, and file-sharing for teams. Free for teams for an unlimited time. But with the added bonus of being able to talk with ANYONE from ANY email address, instead of switching in and out of teams like on Slack. Try it out: hall.com

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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I don't get the point of HipChat. It's a closed, proprietary Jabber server, with closed-source clients, intentionally no OTR support but the explicit ability to spy one-on-one conversations instead. And people used to pay for that?

Yes, you clearly don't get the point.

A functioning business doesn't want to arse around setting up a Jabber server, building integration with Jira, creating clients optimised for group IM, or that sort of thing. It's not impossible to do, but it takes time and other resources.

On the other hand, we can use Hipchat - it works pretty well, integrates with anything we want, and somebody else is doing the development work. It's an obvious win.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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HipChat is probably under fire from Slack. That's why I think they are making this change, because I just made the transition a few weeks ago and Slack has been amazing. Once you go Slack, you never go back.

Would you mind linking to the competing service you mention, or perhaps a review of it? I've been advocating for Hipchat but haven't seen Slack yet.

If you communicate with more than one team (different emails), I'd look into Hall. It's chat, text, file-sharing on all your devices. Hall.com
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