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Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by Florin_Andrei »

thisjustinm wrote: post #61

I like this concept but think about how the user at the FCC will perceive this. When your internet is slow who do you blame? 1 - The site, i.e. "Yahoo must be getting a lot of traffic today." 2 - Your ISP. ie. "Comcast must be overloaded in my area right now." 3 - Your equipment. i.e. "Maybe I need to restart my wifi / PC" And then, somewhere way down that list you maybe, just maybe think - "I wonder if there is an o…

They know already. Their techies know. They are on Reddit and HN just like everyone else.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by BrandonM »

criley2 wrote: post #77
higherpurpose wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it means they would have to actually care about broadband competition in US and about abuses from the local monopolies, in order to get faster Internet.

>No, it means they would have to actually care about broadband competition in US and about abuses from the local monopolies, in order to get faster Internet No, it means they'll care even less because they'll be relegated to satellite only rural bullshit internet that has insanity latency, etc. They will not experience anything relating to Comcast/cable/DSL/telcos in any significant way because the truly out there ru…

Yep. My parents live a half hour outside Wilmington, NC, and they can't even get Hughes (satellite Internet). They currently pay $90/mo for 2gb of Verizon wireless data. Their only other choice is DirecTV's offering, which is priced similarly and also metered.

On the other hand, my brother in Wilmington has Time Warner, and I can't even SSH out, at least with whatever default setup they hooked him up with.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by bdamm »

This is a foolish, dangerous game to play. You know, there are probably just as many people in the government who are trying to win the fight for the people.

What you really want is to identify the browsers of actual users in decision making capability, and target them. Surely, with the level of user tracking going on these days, this is a feasible concept.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by Florin_Andrei »

eloff wrote: post #28
minikites wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed and also this should be true for the pay of elected officials and corporate executives.

Good luck attracting and retaining talent if you can't pay market prices for executives.

Riiiight, cause only so few people could do such great jobs.

http://www.businessinsider.com/yahoo-coo-henrique-de-castro-...

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by danielweber »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #69
talmand wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Politicians don't get rich from their paycheck.

Assuming you're not being snide; how do they get rich then (whilst in post)?

Politicians and their aides consistently get above-average returns on their stock portfolios.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by charonn0 »

twoodfin wrote: post #85
jdmichal wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Netflix only struck a deal with Comcast because too little Netflix traffic could pass through Comcast. That doesn't hurt Comcast at all, because they have monopoly. It does hurt Netflix, because now they have a bunch of subscribers who can't effectively use their service. People who can't effectively use a service tend to stop paying for it. So, given that these kinds of deals only happen when service is slow…

Comcast has not exactly shown reluctance to participate in "traffic shaping" in the past. The only references to Comcast traffic shaping I can find are related to BitTorrent. Did you have something else in mind? And again, what does that have to do with a supposed future of browsing websites at dialup speeds?

> The only references to Comcast traffic shaping I can find are related to BitTorrent.

Isn't that enough?

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by dragonwriter »

pdabbadabba wrote: post #71
dragonwriter wrote: post #65

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> But it seems like there is good reason to worry that this would permit something like a fast lane There might be reason to worry that it could, but to assume that it will and react as if that were an established fact rather than a possibility of concern is not reasonable. Before there is a rule in effect there will be a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking which will say exactly what the rules would be and how the FCC int…

Sure. I agree with this, of course. But I suppose I don't see the harm in taking action now, even if these are early days, to make our views known. (Though, as I said, I don't like this particular strategy.) Lobbying in Washington does not begin after an NPR has been issued. Why should we behave differently? The NPR is an important regulatory document because it typically indicates the Commission's favored outcome an…

> But I suppose I don't see the harm in taking action now, even if these are early days, to make our views known.

I agree with that -- I just think that the action should be focussed on what regulation should or should not contain, not on treating the regulatory agency involved as an enemy.

> Why should we behave differently?

Attacking people who are decision-makers that have historically been (and overtly still are) supportive of the position you espouse based on media rumors of provisions that might be in a plan that they are preparing is behaving differently than the firms that lobby before a concrete proposal in the form of an NPRM is released. Compare that attacks on Wheeler and the FCC to the Google/Amazon/Facebook/etc. letter.

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by sosborn »

danielweber wrote: post #95
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming you're not being snide; how do they get rich then (whilst in post)?

Politicians and their aides consistently get above-average returns on their stock portfolios.

That's a pretty big claim. Any data to back it up?

Re: How to throttle the FCC to dial up modem speeds

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Post by Vanayad »

Wouldn't it be awesome to have the major website/companies (like Facebook, Google, MS, Amazon, etc) have a landing page when accessing their site in a style like they did with SOPA but now the whole webpage is unavailable for ~1 minute "due to slowed down traffic" or something. I think that would get the attention of people. (Of course, this should run just for a limited time )
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