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Re: The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction business

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And I ask you is he any good?

With an average of almost 100, he was the very best and will be the benchmark that all future greats will be compared to.

'Tis a line from the chorus of a famous (?) song about him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spDWaeBE2AY

  Our Don Bradman - And I ask you is he any good?
  Our Don Bradman - As a bastman he can sure lay on the wood.
  For when he goes in to bat
  He knocks ev'ry record flat,
  For there isn't any thing he cannot do,
  Our Don Bradman - Ev'ry Aussie "dips his lid" to you.

Re: The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction business

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post #86

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With an average of almost 100, he was the very best and will be the benchmark that all future greats will be compared to.

'Tis a line from the chorus of a famous (?) song about him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spDWaeBE2AY Our Don Bradman - And I ask you is he any good? Our Don Bradman - As a bastman he can sure lay on the wood. For when he goes in to bat He knocks ev'ry record flat, For there isn't any thing he cannot do, Our Don Bradman - Ev'ry Aussie "dips his lid" to you.

Oh woosh! :)

Re: The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction business

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I was shocked to click on this article and realize that they were talking about someone other than Michael Moschen. I believe Moschen is the only juggler to have won a MacArthur "genius grant"[0] (He has also worked with David Bowie[1], which makes him not just a genius but a badass in my books, but I digress....) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moschen [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_%28film%29

As an amateur juggler, Anthony Gatto is exactly who I expected this to be about. The article perfectly nails the tension of juggling: it's theoretically a performance art, but one in which there is almost no audience who can appreciate it. I think it's akin to free jazz, or car shows, or other weird passions where eventually the experts can only be understood by other experts. I did find it weird that they made no me…

I wonder if it's like when I take a look at software and all anyone else can see is the output, but I can appreciate the underlying mechanisms and even be awe struck. And my colleagues are wondering if we're looking at the same thing.

Re: The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction business

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Hey, wait, I don't know about you, but I've always thought one of the most rewarding parts of working in tech was being lectured about motivation by someone with 10X my salary, 100X my bonus and 1000X my equity stake :-)

No, no - the most rewarding part is proving to them they're an incompetent idiot. The most rewarding. Not necessarily very rewarding in absolute terms.

The reason it's so rewarding is because it's next to impossible to give idiots any self-actualization. And if you do, when you do, their world crumbles into pieces.

Re: The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction business

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that's pretty american-centric. as an indian i'd say ali was truly world-famous, jordan is well known to my generation due to nba catching on in the 80s but i'm betting a large chunk of my parent's generation wouldn't know him, i only knew about babe ruth from reading american fiction, and i'd pretty much never heard of gretzky until last year.

It's obviously American centric because American media has been dominate at a global level for decades. That's the reason so many people know who eg Tiger Woods and Jordan are: American media made them famous to a degree far exceeding their accomplishments. The same holds true in music, movies, tv shows, and so on. Jordan was widely regarded as one of the most famous people on earth for 15 or 20 years. His name is ev…

It's got more to do with the audience for the sport. Golf is played all over the world. On the other hand, a famous American Football quarterback could travel incognito in most of the world, because the international audience for American football is tiny by comparison.

Re: The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction business

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This is a case of a performer aging and not being able to understand a new medium. Gatto asks if posting videos on youtube will get him another job. He never considers that it can be a job.

Gatto seems to prefer the well-honed live performance to the recorded performance that may have worked on the 100th take. This is a matter of taste. It's also difficult to judge the skill of a performer in a recording (are they that good or did they edit their video to just have their successes). This makes me think of classical music. Live performances have certainly been on the downward trend for many years. Glenn…

If your specialty is getting things perfect (almost) every time, and you are competing in an arena where the other people only have to keep trying until they get it right once, then you are going to have a bad day.

The comparison with live and recorded performances is spot on. There's probably a reason the major "live" performances of popular musicians are pre-recorded.

There may be a lesson here for those who are spending years perfecting technical skills when your competition are taking three-month bootcamps.

Re: The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction business

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Someone that a higher percentage of people would be familiar with. While his feat is impressive, it is I'm guessing widely unknown. Perhaps Jordan, Ali, Gretzky, Babe Ruth would seem more appropriate. For those not too familiar with cricket, that "average" isn't like a batting average in baseball. While incredibly impressive, it is not equivalent to getting a hit 100% of the time. As for impressive feats above and be…

that's pretty american-centric. as an indian i'd say ali was truly world-famous, jordan is well known to my generation due to nba catching on in the 80s but i'm betting a large chunk of my parent's generation wouldn't know him, i only knew about babe ruth from reading american fiction, and i'd pretty much never heard of gretzky until last year.

so you have in fact heard of all of them. I think that pretty much proves my point, but I could also throw Pele in there for a non american that is far far more well known than Mr. Bradman.

Re: The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction business

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Someone that a higher percentage of people would be familiar with. While his feat is impressive, it is I'm guessing widely unknown. Perhaps Jordan, Ali, Gretzky, Babe Ruth would seem more appropriate. For those not too familiar with cricket, that "average" isn't like a batting average in baseball. While incredibly impressive, it is not equivalent to getting a hit 100% of the time. As for impressive feats above and be…

OP apparently isn't from the USA; I'd imagine in OP's cultural context the Bambino is less well known, baseball being a mostly North American sport. Let's not forget we have an international readership here :-)

True, but I suspect the other three are more well known by far more people. If we want to go international, I'd put Pele out there before Mr. Bradman

Re: The greatest juggler alive quit to open a construction business

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Someone that a higher percentage of people would be familiar with. While his feat is impressive, it is I'm guessing widely unknown. Perhaps Jordan, Ali, Gretzky, Babe Ruth would seem more appropriate. For those not too familiar with cricket, that "average" isn't like a batting average in baseball. While incredibly impressive, it is not equivalent to getting a hit 100% of the time. As for impressive feats above and be…

Babe Ruth? So by "a higher percentage of people" you mean "Americans and few others"

I suspect that Babe Ruth might actually be comparable. People that know a little bit about baseball know him. People that know a little bit about cricket know Bradman.

Ali and Jordan on the other hand are pretty much known by everyone. Pele would be another good example.

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