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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by blippe »

mrinterweb wrote: post #73

For some strange reason, the 14.04 release is not showing up for me with "sudo do-release-upgrade". I have tried to update my primary software source to their main server and main for the US, and both did not show the availability of the new release. As a friendly reminder, if you want to download the release as quickly as possible, use the torrent from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads and be sure…

It is by design!

Upgrades between LTS releases are not enabled by default until the first point release, 14.04.1, scheduled for July. It is recommended that most LTS users wait until then before upgrading to 14.04. You could add a '-d' flag if you're in a hurry!

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by notatoad »

otterley wrote: post #87
wyclif wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The argument for rolling release in a nutshell.

I prefer the "we bottle no wine before its time" model. It's one of the many reasons I prefer EL distributions to Ubuntu.

14.04 is an LTS version of ubuntu though.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by 0x420 »

commandar wrote: post #89
0x420 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rebranding stuff isn't Not Invented Here syndrome. Relax. They didn't re-invent anything. It's just Firefox with a few patches for integrating with their desktop environment. Plus, they gave up on their startup system. They'll be switching to systemd in future releases.

>It's just Firefox with a few patches for integrating with their desktop environment. Debian upstream does the same thing. Mozilla doesn't allow use of the Firefox trademark for non-Mozilla builds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Weasel

It seems we were both wrong. Forhackernews was most likely referring to the new web app system. Websites that register themselves as web apps get their own launcher icons, run in their own window, show desktop notifications, etc., and they're powered by Ubuntu's custom QML-based browser which is referred to as Ubuntu Browser. Firefox is still there, and still branded as Firefox. Ubuntu Browser isn't intended to replace it outright.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by duaneb »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #59
duaneb wrote: post #49

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How did they ship this? It's clearly an unfinished release.

Better to stick to their bi-annual schedule, even if it means shipping a usable but not-quite-polished release, then polishing it in subsequent months. The previous versions, from 12.04 to 13.10, are more than adequate for anyone who can't risk upgrading to what is effectively a beta or release candidate.

Their bi-annual schedule is why Ubuntu has a reputation for releasing buggy, user-unfriendly software.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by otterley »

notatoad wrote: post #92
otterley wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer the "we bottle no wine before its time" model. It's one of the many reasons I prefer EL distributions to Ubuntu.

14.04 is an LTS version of ubuntu though.

... which unfortunately means you're stuck with whatever's broken.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by mrinterweb »

blippe wrote: post #91
mrinterweb wrote: post #73

For some strange reason, the 14.04 release is not showing up for me with "sudo do-release-upgrade". I have tried to update my primary software source to their main server and main for the US, and both did not show the availability of the new release. As a friendly reminder, if you want to download the release as quickly as possible, use the torrent from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads and be sure…

It is by design! Upgrades between LTS releases are not enabled by default until the first point release, 14.04.1, scheduled for July. It is recommended that most LTS users wait until then before upgrading to 14.04. You could add a '-d' flag if you're in a hurry!

I used the '-d' flag and the release that it showed was the development release. I tried to proceed with the 14.04 development upgrade, but the upgrade failed.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by mdellabitta »

skriticos2 wrote: post #62
g8oz wrote: post #40

For those of you who find the Unity desktop to be an overweight example of "designer" solipsism, try out the alternative light weight desktops like Lubuntu (LXDE based) or Xubuntu (XFCE based). sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop

In fact I did that in the past weeks after being a bit weary of the Unity 8 situation. So I grabbed Debian testing and installed it. First I tried Gnome 3, then KDE and XFCE and boy, are they all ugly. I started with Gnome 3.10 (after ignoring it for most of it's existence except once in the early time) and it failed to register simple mouse clicks in a Steam game (the firs thing I tried). It's also sluggish and ugly…

To my eye, XFCE in Xubuntu looks a lot better than in ootb Debian. Might want to give that a whirl.

Also you check out tint2, which is a nice 3rd party panel also used in Crunchbang.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by bebop »

g8oz wrote: post #40

For those of you who find the Unity desktop to be an overweight example of "designer" solipsism, try out the alternative light weight desktops like Lubuntu (LXDE based) or Xubuntu (XFCE based). sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop

Also if you are looking for Ubuntu with Gnome 3 by default: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/trusty/relea...

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by karlshea »

untothebreach wrote: post #34
Toenex wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UK here too. 'sudo do-release-upgrade' gives 'No new release found`.

It's weird, if I go to the web page linked here, I see the release, but running the 'sudo do-release-upgrade' command reports the same thing as yours.

I seem to remember that when 12 LTS was released that it was a month or so until you could pull it using do-release-upgrade. Something about wanting to make sure everything was stable before they pushed it that way? It's been awhile so I'm not sure.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Post by obeid »

ForHackernews wrote: post #57
DanBC wrote: post #47

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Can anyone talk about how well a Macbook Pro copes with the UEFI version of Ubuntu? Fedora 20 on a 2009 13" MBP is an unfun experience. Using the UEFI boot means you get broken graphics drivers. Using the regular boot means you have to hold boot to get the image boot menu every time you power on. (I think - I could easily be wrong). You have to make sure the disk is blessed otherwise there's a large boot delay. (Fedo…

I run Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro, and it works just fine with UEFI. However, I did have to do some tinkering with ReFind as part of the initial setup: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/

Peeps, don't fuck with Ubuntu on Mac hardware unless you have reFind installed. Always useful to have the installation files on the mac as well as the ubuntu drive.
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