I plan on doing this for my startup also.
YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
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Re: YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dunno, Google seems to have beaten them to the punch and no matter their culture, I'd still call them a traditionally hierarchically structured organization
What punch did we get beaten to, exactly?
Doesn't google show Chrome ads on google.com and youtube.com for users with IE6.
They have a couple more page views than the YC alumni network.
Re: YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dunno, Google seems to have beaten them to the punch and no matter their culture, I'd still call them a traditionally hierarchically structured organization
What punch did we get beaten to, exactly?
the whole convincing people to start abandoning IE6 thing
Re: YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
#94from the comments: You do realize that a large portion of people that are using IE6 are at work where they have NO control over the browser... i hear this every time the ie6 argument comes up, and yet, i've never heard from someone that actually works in one of these IT departments that can vouch for this. who are these unsympathetic robots who, while ironically working in an IT department, are so out of touch with t…
I have worked at a place like this. You clearly have never worked for a large bank, or financial institution. Or a company that has a lot of internal processes designed for ie6/active-x. It is great, like stepping back into the past, but not the good past of dinosaurs or gladiators, but the shit past of 6 years ago, when we didn't know any better. You no longer want to use a computer at home, since you are constantly reminded of the shit you are using at work.
Re: YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
#95What if we already provide a notice for all IE6 users to switch, just not using your widget? We've been advocating that all users drop IE6 at http://webs.com/ since December. Are you only listing those who've thrown up your widget?
No, they have scoured the entire web, all trillion websites, and analyse who has been doing what. Don't worry, your logo will appear in a few minutes.
Re: YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
#96This is the biggest example I've seen of the network of YC alumni organizing to do something. YC itself didn't organize this or even know about it. I've been looking forward to seeing what this type of network can do that a traditionally hierarchically structured organization can't.
I dunno, Google seems to have beaten them to the punch and no matter their culture, I'd still call them a traditionally hierarchically structured organization
Who beat who to the punch is completely and utterly irrelevant here. It's all about sending out the right signal and taking a bold stand in bringing the web forward.
The fact that people sit down and make time to come up with initiatives like this is something I truly admire, no matter how big their audience or the volume of their network.
Re: YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm guessing most of the remaining IE6 installs are inside corporations and government departments and are necessary to run legacy internal web applications.
Again, same reply: "That's not an excuse. IE 8 comes with a "compatibility mode" feature where any site can choose to use the IE 6 rendering engine by setting headers or meta tags appropriately."
Great! Explain that to IT. :)
Re: YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately, IT departments receiving complaints isn't going to do it, unless those complaints are "I can't do my job with IE6 any more"... So you need to hit core web apps for those businesses. If the choice is "we could fix our 78 different custom web apps to work on Firefox" or "we could upgrade to IE8 or FF", the choice is pretty clear for a cash-crunched business with an understaffed IT department. It's a cost…
It's as good a place to start as any. Once we can get the percentage of users using IE 6 down a little bit more, we'll be able to ditch support completely. Also, there's no reason the browser decision has to be binary: custom legacy apps could use IE 6, with Firefox as the main web browser. BTW: Shoot me an email when you've implemented some kind of notice and I'll throw your logo up!
There's a slight problem with this (and I'm only half tongue in cheek here): corporate IT admins probably see it as an actual positive if their staff can't access their favorite social networking web sites or anything else not explicitly required for work. The only thing that will convince them to move is if critical business infrastructure they depend on starts breaking and that isn't very likely to happen soon.
I think one of key things that will make businesses move will be when Microsoft itself phases out mainstream support. Sadly, their policy is that IE lifecycles follow that of the OS they were released with, so if I read it right, we are looking at IE6 being supported right through to 2014 before security updates disappear. That means we'll probably be stuck with some reasonable percentage of IE6 users for a few years yet. With luck Win7 will be good enough to entice a lot of companies that held back through vista to upgrade and that will kill off a goodly number over the next year or two.
Re: YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
#99Maybe they can tackle Apple's app store review process next.
Re: YC startups unite to drive nail into the coffin of Internet Explorer 6
#100What if we already provide a notice for all IE6 users to switch, just not using your widget? We've been advocating that all users drop IE6 at http://webs.com/ since December. Are you only listing those who've thrown up your widget?
No, they have scoured the entire web, all trillion websites, and analyse who has been doing what. Don't worry, your logo will appear in a few minutes.
While I heartily support your attempt at feeling significant by coming across as an arrogant prick, my original question was moreso along the lines of "are you guys restricting the featured sites to those using the code you've provided?".
I haven't seen that explained yet, hence why I asked. ;P