Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder • Hacker News Board

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by nhaehnle » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:31 AM UTC

saraid216 wrote: post #46

ronnier wrote: post #19

I'm holding to my comment! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6828576 >I am only certain of one thing when it comes to bitcoin, the creator(s) are not Japanese.

I still claim that Satoshi Nakamoto is the NSA. Clearly this was one of their fall guys. Terrible people, the NSA, setting up innocent bystanders as scapegoats.

What is your story for the thought processes/internal processes at NSA that would have led to the creation of Bitcoin by them? I'm genuinely curious because it seems pretty out of character for an organization whose task is to protect the established elite to go out of their way to create something extremely creative that could endanger the established elite.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by declan » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:32 AM UTC

declan wrote: post #70

fatbat wrote: post #15

From article "exclusive two-hour interview" but then no link?

AP almost certainly audio recorded it (at every news organization I've worked for it would be standard practice). But that doesn't mean they'll post the audio, or that there was video. Also: they'll do a writethru soon enough.

Update: writethru is up with important details.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by declan » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:32 AM UTC

declan wrote: post #58

latj wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The two stories arent mutually exclusive. According to Newsweek the man acknowledged that he had worked on bitcoin: "I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss it" AP says the main is denying he ever worked on bitcoin. He very well could have said both of those things.

Imagine this: Dorian Nakamoto was a former DoD contractor working on classified project and was not Mr. Bitcoin. A woman started (from his perspective) stalking him, emailing him under false pretenses, phoning him, calling his son, and then showing up at his house in person. He called the cops to keep this stalker (again, from his perspective) away from his house. She yelled some questions at him from a distance and…

And that (DoD work, or at least NDA-covered work) is exactly what Dorian thought was happening: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-exclusive-man-denies-hes-b...

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by dclowd9901 » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:36 AM UTC

jsnk wrote: post #17

I will forever mark the name, Leah McGrath Goodman and Newsweek editorial staff in my mind as a toxic journalist and TMZ-styled publication after this event. Granted, I don't think Leah McGrath Goodman and Newsweek did anything illegal by breaking this story. I don't think it's wrong for Goodman to attempt to contact Satoshi's relatives over the phone. What really crossed the line for me was Leah McGrath Goodman and…

You seem upset about this story, but as someone with no stake in Bitcorn or anything else related to this nonsense, I struggle to understand why you care so much who is outed as its creator?

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by timmclean » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:37 AM UTC

sdrothrock wrote: post #85

fchollet wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly, it seems Satoshi just spoke out to state that he is not Dorian Nakamoto: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-sour...

I don't think that means much, though. Hypothetically speaking, if I were both Batman and Bruce Wayne and someone outed me as Batman, of course I would say, as Bruce Wayne, "I am not Batman."

Actually, more like Batman saying "I am not Bruce Wayne."

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by saraid216 » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:42 AM UTC

nhaehnle wrote: post #91

saraid216 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still claim that Satoshi Nakamoto is the NSA. Clearly this was one of their fall guys. Terrible people, the NSA, setting up innocent bystanders as scapegoats.

What is your story for the thought processes/internal processes at NSA that would have led to the creation of Bitcoin by them? I'm genuinely curious because it seems pretty out of character for an organization whose task is to protect the established elite to go out of their way to create something extremely creative that could endanger the established elite.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6206086

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6804870

The plausibility depends a lot on the competence you anticipate from such processes. But such contradicting signals of competence are pretty typical of large organizations, especially ones that are silo-ed to some degree.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by saraid216 » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:46 AM UTC

rjzzleep wrote: post #13

why are we up voting these threads? so someone posts this fancy story about the bitcoin founder he finally found, which for all we know could be false. yet, we have nothing better to up vote than every major news outlets satoshi nakamoto story.

We are upvoting these threads because HN is subject to playing paparazzi as much as any teenage ditz and consequently devolving into a tabloid. This happens when John McAfee goes nuts in Brazil, too.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by e15ctr0n » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:48 AM UTC

gamblor956 wrote: post #71

Aqueous wrote: post #50

Ok, I'm sorry but there are some serious inconsistencies here. Leah McGrath Goodman said that after she asked him about BitCoin he promptly stopped emailing her. The timeline is unclear, but it seems like this was before Goodman contacted his family members. Why would she contact his family members if she was directly talking to him and they could blow her pretext of wanting to talk about model trains? This strongly…

Must also point out: Lance Armstrong and the members of the US Postal Service team denied using performance-enhancing drugs for more than a decade before finally confessing. JK Rowling denied writing the Cuckoo's Calling for months. The Duke Lacrosse Stripper changed her story at least a dozen times before finally admitted nothing happened. JJ Abrams claimed that Star Trek Into Darkness wouldn't be about Khan for mon…

JK Rowling never denied writing the Cuckoo's Calling. When The Sunday Times broke the news on July 14, 2013[1], she said “We can confirm the story in The Sunday Times was correct, and it was not a leak or elaborate marketing campaign to boost sales. It has been wonderful to publish without hype or expectation, and pure pleasure to get feedback under a different name.”[2]

[1] http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Arts/articl...

[2] http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/business/media/rowling-boo...

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by hendzen » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:49 AM UTC

fchollet wrote: post #86

fchollet wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly, it seems Satoshi just spoke out to state that he is not Dorian Nakamoto: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-sour...

It is remarkable that there was no such denial when Nick Szabo was widely outed as a likely Satoshi in tech blogs and the press a few months ago: http://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamo...

Szabo didn't have reporters camping outside of his house. Besides, Szabo is a ghost anyway.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Post by SimHacker » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:52 AM UTC

gamblor956 wrote: post #71

Aqueous wrote: post #50

Ok, I'm sorry but there are some serious inconsistencies here. Leah McGrath Goodman said that after she asked him about BitCoin he promptly stopped emailing her. The timeline is unclear, but it seems like this was before Goodman contacted his family members. Why would she contact his family members if she was directly talking to him and they could blow her pretext of wanting to talk about model trains? This strongly…

Must also point out: Lance Armstrong and the members of the US Postal Service team denied using performance-enhancing drugs for more than a decade before finally confessing. JK Rowling denied writing the Cuckoo's Calling for months. The Duke Lacrosse Stripper changed her story at least a dozen times before finally admitted nothing happened. JJ Abrams claimed that Star Trek Into Darkness wouldn't be about Khan for mon…

How about some Star Wars examples for some balance, please?