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Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by damon_c »

dasil003 wrote: post #17

I was hoping this would be about how annoying the pricing is for Creative Cloud. If I was a designer then I could justify paying that kind of monthly tariff, but as primarily a developer who needs infrequent access to Photoshop or Illustrator the pricing options are just highway robbery. At least in the old days I could pay up front and stretch it out over time to get my money's worth by deciding when and if to upgra…

I had this problem.

Pixelmator and Acorn for Mac are not perfect replacements but after awhile you figure out what they do well and you start to not miss Adobe products.

also iDraw... all of them together are trivial in cost compared to anything Adobe.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by justinph »

How is it adobe's fault that the OP no longer has a optical drive? He purchased physical media in the first place, Adobe, nor any other vendor, is under no obligations to provide convenient access to him for years down the road. Sure, it'd be nice if they did, it is completely understandable that they don't. CS5 is four year old software.

Also, we're talking about an academic version of the software, which retails for about $200, not the full $799 for one App, or $2200+ for the full suite. They sell it to students so some day they'll buy the real thing when they do commercial work, which the academic license doesn't allow.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by justin66 »

grimtrigger wrote: post #56
MatthewWilkes wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"should not of been suggested" twitch

I think a lot of time is wasted on perfecting spelling/grammar because of comments like the one above. Are you having difficulty understanding Scott's message or intent?

> Are you having difficulty understanding Scott's message or intent?

I assume Scott's either dumb or careless. If public communication isn't your thing, how hard is it to find someone to proofread your message when you're working at a corporation? In either case he's not the person Adobe should have handling a PR situation.

> I think a lot of time is wasted on perfecting spelling/grammar because of comments like the one above.

I'm very sympathetic to an engineer or scientist having issues like this, perhaps working in fields where people from all over the world will be working together. On the other hand, if you're working in customer care, written and verbal communication is your thing. If you're not good at it, that reflects on you and your company and the seriousness with which they take the customer care function.

Poor communication started the problems here with this customer so it is an especially touchy subject for Adobe. Hence the way people are reacting.

edit: wow, mhurron, why not interact with what people have actually written in its full and intended context instead of assuming the worst about people and knocking over a strawman?

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by samstave »

streetnigga wrote: post #73
samstave wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way this brief interaction is constructed would lead one to surmise that the SOFTWARE is not what is protected/IP/sold to you... it is the LICENSE key. Thus, downloading software should never be an offence. He paid for the serial, not the software..

Well for one I think without giving a hash value for the data to be downloaded, say a known good torrent, this can only result in tears for the end user. Adobe pirate releases, notorious for being infected. But to the point of your comment I would be wary of just considering it downloading. If, again using the bittorrent file transfer idea, you download a copy you could very well be considered to be making available…

>"wouldn't want to be stating "support said it was OK""

In this case - does he have an email or chat session proving that support said it was ok?

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by aethertron »

kabdib wrote: post #48

About a decade ago I bought some OCR software. I used it for a few years, then flattened my OS and had to reinstall it. No dice. It was not supported any more; I even had the license, but the company's activation servers no longer worked. I could pay $400 or so to buy a new version or do without. I did without. I refuse to buy that company's products.

Why don't you name and shame the company?

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by vacri »

MatthewWilkes wrote: post #36
greenyoda wrote: post #31

A guy from Adobe replied in the comments. Apparently Adobe is a bit uncomfortable with the advice that their support rep gave about downloading a pirated copy of the software: Hi, your blog post was brought to my attention. After reading this post, I want to apologize for the way that your issue was handled. Our tech support agent provided you incorrect information as far “that its OK to download pirated software”. T…

"should not of been suggested" twitch

The main article had: I was connected with a sales rep. His manor was very professional, and I could tell he was smart.

I was hoping for a successful resolution to the story at that point, given he was apparently meeting the sales guy at his palatial home.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by krapp »

tlow wrote: post #84

If you truly care, develop a free alternative that is just as good as their products. See RMS.

Problem is, the open source community apparently decided Gimp and Inkscape were probably good enough, and few people who've ever used Adobe software would likely agree.

Never mind that employers probably won't have them installed, and probably won't allow them to be used in house, they won't care if Gimp and Inkscape are on your resume if they're looking specifically to hire for photoshop/illustrator experience, and these alternatives would also have to deal with proprietary image formats, which might make the end result unacceptable to free software purists.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by w1ntermute »

cschmidt wrote: post #86
yuvadam wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Scott".

"Scott" Venkatasubramanian

I actually see native speakers make the "should of" mistake far more often than I see non-native speakers make it, probably because it's a mistake based on pronunciation. Native speakers often incorrectly spell based on pronunciation, while non-native speakers often incorrectly pronounce based on spelling. In fact, the (presumably native-speaking) author of the linked blog post makes such a mistake - he uses the word "manor" where he should have used "manner." Frequent signs of non-native English are improper verb conjugation and article placement, rather than something like "should of."

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by errantspark »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #81
cromulent wrote: post #50

Yet another Adobe story: I paid for CS4, infrequent user, after a couple of hardware changes (SSDs etc) it wouldn't install anymore. Long Skype call to US (over an hour), treated like criminal. Forget it, I'm your customer taking the burden of your business problems. Happy Acorn user now. So many dollars over the years on PS/Macromedia/etc, never again. So tired of companies treating honest customers like criminals.…

>> "Edit: how many times have I bought a movie on iTunes to show my kids how to do it right, and then torrented it as I couldn't wait for the download, too slow." Strange, I find iTunes the fastest way to download media + you can watch while downloading. For me that usually means spend 30-60 seconds downloading and then start watching and the download keeps up.

These days you can watch torrents while downloading too.
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