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Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by Raphael_Amiard »

blhack wrote: post #15
omnipresent1 wrote: post #5

some of it actually makes sense. how is google going to make money from this?

I know that I'm probably wrong. Sergey Brin and Larry Page are neeeerdddssss , not business school kids that decided to make a web app. There is a good chance that they're doing this just because it's really really cool, and because they can. I imagine that if I ever had the sort of cash that they have, I would be doing the same thing that I do on the weekends NOW, but on a larger scale: geekery. Building a linux dis…

There is probably some truth in what you say, albeit i wouldn't go so far to say that they're just nerds. They're business nerds, or they wouldn't be where they are today.

Also, i'd really appreciate if people would stop calling it a "linux distro". It makes as much sense than to call OS X a "BSD Distro"

Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by access_denied »

cnlwsu wrote: post #26

"nobody uses Chrome" http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-daily-20090708-2009070... losing to safari by .05? I understand its a joke... I just didn't laugh. They also say they are planing on starting with netbooks, not only targeting netbooks. I do think its a good niche market to target first though since there isn't as much of a dominance and since netbooks target low prices, removing the windows cost might make i…

The joke is to portray Steve Jobs as someone who doesn't respect Adsense as a product.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by access_denied »

look_lookatme wrote: post #43
boucher wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"freetard" seems pretty in character for Jobs to me.

I wouldn't have a clue what Steve Jobs would think, to be honest with you. However, I can comb through the work of Lyons and see that, yes, outside of the FSJ context he harbors great, almost excessive, disdain for the free software hardcore.

Indeed, I think he hates them because he sees his old-school world (and thereby his job-security) challenged by this, as he calls it, freetard-thing, which seems to be a blob in his mind consisting of elements from: blogs, linux, oss, free, internet, sandals, open, free. I think this is so, because when he gave a talk about his blog he stated that i got into blogging out of fear that Linux would kill old-school journalism.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by geirfreysson »

Fake Steve: "First of all, nobody seems to appreciate how goddamn hard it is to make an operating system."

From the Google blog: "[GOS is Chrome running] within a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel"

So they're not building an OS from scratch. Did Fake Steve even read the post?

Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by roc »

enomar wrote: post #11

"Because Chrome is shit. Just utter, utter shit. I mean they've got all these big brains at Google and you'd think they could make a decent fucking browser. Jesus, the freetards at Mozilla can do it. But not Google. Nope. They gave it their big best effort and what did they come up with? Chrome. It's a joke." Seriously? Maybe I'm missing the satire or hyperbole here, but I really don't see it that way. Chrome on Wind…

The joke is that Steve calls everything shit. Even things that are useful, usable and exceed the quality bar for most shipping software.

As with Steve's other notable traits, Lyons exaggerates it for humor.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by roc »

nir wrote: post #74
concretecode wrote: post #40

It always amazes me how the best social commentary comes from those who have the least to lose. Without the artificial constraint of professionalism (or, I guess, the need to be factually accurate), Lyons somehow manages to be more honest and credible, not less. Take his Fake Steve piece on the Microsoft-Yahoo merger: http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/02/ballmer-im-completely-... which I felt was the most succinct a…

Exactly. If you don't let the style distract you, Fake Steve is actually the most sensible and sharp tech journalism around. This is the first non-hyperbole analysis of Google's announcement I've seen today. My bet is that Chrome OS will have similar impact to the Chrome browser - encourage everyone to step up their game, but not dominate the market. Google has a lot of money and a lot of bright people, and it acts j…

They put years of frustrating, boring work into Google search, Maps, Mail, Chat, Calendar, Reader, etc.

Why should we doubt their ability to stick with a Linux Windowing and Usability project? This 'Google is unfocused. Google doesn't follow through. Google leaves projects to rot' meme is particularly annoying, because there is so little evidence that it happens to anything on a significant scale.

Several of their large acquisitions have appeared to be neglected, but each and every time that I can recall, it's been a seeming public neglect followed by the introduction of the 2.0 successor.

Case in point: if you think their social networking acquisitions are being left to rot, vs their energy being focused on new services that integrate with WAVE, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by jimbokun »

nir wrote: post #74
concretecode wrote: post #40

It always amazes me how the best social commentary comes from those who have the least to lose. Without the artificial constraint of professionalism (or, I guess, the need to be factually accurate), Lyons somehow manages to be more honest and credible, not less. Take his Fake Steve piece on the Microsoft-Yahoo merger: http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/02/ballmer-im-completely-... which I felt was the most succinct a…

Exactly. If you don't let the style distract you, Fake Steve is actually the most sensible and sharp tech journalism around. This is the first non-hyperbole analysis of Google's announcement I've seen today. My bet is that Chrome OS will have similar impact to the Chrome browser - encourage everyone to step up their game, but not dominate the market. Google has a lot of money and a lot of bright people, and it acts j…

"My bet is that Chrome OS will have similar impact to the Chrome browser - encourage everyone to step up their game, but not dominate the market."

Fire and Motion.

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000339.html

The only way this makes sense is if they are trying to keep Microsoft distracted and too busy defending their core market to attack Google. If this forces MSFT to further lower their asking price for Windows 7 on low end devices, it is probably a success for Google.

The danger is if they take it too seriously. They do not want to get in a serious competition with MSFT for OS market share. But if this is costing them relatively little in engineering costs and executive focus, it's probably a good idea.

Fake Steve makes this same point: "Nah, the only point in Google giving away a free browser and OS is somehow to fuck up Microsoft."

Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by robotron »

seiji wrote: post #18
robotron wrote: post #3

Guess I'm the only one that finds this not very funny.

Maybe one is not enlightened enough to fully understand its brilliance? "Ours started out 20 years ago, at NeXT. You could say it goes back to 1977, with the BSD guys. Heck, you could even say it goes back to 1969 with Dennis Thompson and Lionel Ritchie."

I "get" it, but the delivery falls flat like a stand-up comedian that makes the audience uncomfortable because no one is laughing. At least that's how it is in my head.

Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by shiranaihito »

Raphael_Amiard wrote: post #89
neilc wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rumour has it that Google wants to ditch X. If that is the case, no other GUIed nix software will run without a rewrite.* Not exactly: few modern GUI applications are written to use Xlib directly. If Google ditched X for a new window system and then ported GTK+, Qt, and a few other widget toolkits to their window system, a lot of software would run with relatively few changes.

"and then ported GTK+, Qt, and a few other widget toolkits to their window system" Wich is obviously done in an afternoon :)

Yes, and so that everything Just Works :p

Re: Fake Steve Jobs on Chrome OS

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Post by jp_sc »

Raphael_Amiard wrote: post #89
neilc wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rumour has it that Google wants to ditch X. If that is the case, no other GUIed nix software will run without a rewrite.* Not exactly: few modern GUI applications are written to use Xlib directly. If Google ditched X for a new window system and then ported GTK+, Qt, and a few other widget toolkits to their window system, a lot of software would run with relatively few changes.

"and then ported GTK+, Qt, and a few other widget toolkits to their window system" Wich is obviously done in an afternoon :)

Of course not. It takes an entire weekend. ;)

Seriously now, is hard but doable. They could start by hiring the SkyOS guy: http://skyos.org/?q=node/650

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