F1 2014: All aboard the 'power train' - new rules explained

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 03, 2013, 2:46 PM UTC

bliti wrote: post #52

The interesting bit here is the development of the turbochargers. This is an area that has been slow to change over the years, due to the small amount of turbocharged vehicles available new[1]. Most turbos are used in heavy machinery (garbage trucks, big rigs, etc.), a slowly changing industry. They do not face the same regulations as regular autos. Seems they are doing away with the wastegate and replacing it with a…

Post by dagw » Tue, Dec 03, 2013, 2:49 PM UTC

joosters wrote: post #43

InclinedPlane wrote: post #16

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Not much. The top speed for controllable driving in a wheeled vehicle is in the 300mph range. The power and aerodynamics requirements to step up to 400mph are severe. Specifically, the wheel-driven land-speed record is a bit over 400mph (although just last year it climbed up to 440mph) and the vehicles capable of going that fast are nearly incapable of taking turns of any significance at those speeds. Jet powered veh…

Perhaps the turning could be improved if jets were used for steering as well? But by this point, you are effectively left with a rocket that just happens to have some circular things that touch the ground.

Post by thedrbrian » Tue, Dec 03, 2013, 2:56 PM UTC

gambiting wrote: post #86

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I agree. The silly cost and stil 840 hp @ 1x,000 rpm is just a bunch of window dressing for the Lefties. The entire enterprise of F1 will never be "green", once you take into account the production of the cars, the crash repleacements, fuel used in training and lower Fxx series, and...the fact that these clowns fly all of this junk around the WORLD to drive. They are doing to f1 what they did to the America's cup. Ba…

Have you considered,that technologies developed for F1 by lets say....Mercedes, can later be used in their regular cars and therefore improve efficiency of not just a single F1 car,but millions of cars on the road? With the promotion of turbochargers in F1, a stupid amount of research is going to go into them - and they are used in pretty much every diesel car on the road now, so if the technology can be improved fur…

Post by raverbashing » Tue, Dec 03, 2013, 3:01 PM UTC

T-zex wrote: post #64

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>> "I'd rather see wheel to wheel action than listen to the comments about how this guy in a second place will have to save his tires and give up positions to score a few points." The only reason he is in 2nd place is because he didn't save his tyres - and the reason he has to now lose places is because the guys behind did. In the end it usually works out the way it should be and we get some fighting on the last few…

Its a matter of taste I suppose. I did not enjoy this season. Maybe I'm too spoiled by MotoGP.

Post by protomyth » Tue, Dec 03, 2013, 3:09 PM UTC

forgottenpaswrd wrote: post #47

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Cars going round in circles? I already find that fairly boring.

That's NASCAR, not F1. In F1 you see real cars, doing real curves, not the thing NASCAR does like having a car that only could turn one way. In F1 you see cars going through the streets of Monaco or Valencia, or German circuits that you could race yourself with your own car. BTW I do it.