"Dart meanwhile is Google’s open-source Web programming language, which has an ultimate goal of replacing JavaScript." Good luck on that. On my side if I were to see JS replaced I would choose Lua as a replacement.
Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment
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#92"Dart meanwhile is Google’s open-source Web programming language, which has an ultimate goal of replacing JavaScript." Good luck on that. On my side if I were to see JS replaced I would choose Lua as a replacement.
why not byte code then we all get what we want.
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#93Any relationship to the cloud IDE Brightly that seemed to have been killed somewhere in 2011-2012? The leaked 'Future of Javascript' Google memo from 2010 mentions they expected Brightly to be the first app written in Dart (which was called Dash at the time).
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#94So this is like Adobe AIR? (FYI Adobe AIR also supports HTML in addition to Flash)
Yes, Chrome Apps can make use of the Chrome Platform API which allows them to do all kinds of privileged things (if the required permissions were given).
http://developer.chrome.com/apps/api_index.html
So... yea, it's very similar. Both are some sort of web-related runtime which can be used for all kinds of applications thanks to additional APIs which make the environment less restrictive.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do I really have to spell things out in legalistic precision to make what should be a very obvious point? Are you really going to argue that native apps and web apps are equally secure because web browsers can occasionally be compromised to give you the permissions that native apps give you by default ? Are you really going to argue against the security of today's web browsers because security of browsers used to be…
> Are you really going to argue that native apps and web apps are equally secure because web browsers can occasionally be compromised to give you the permissions that native apps give you by default? By default in which system? Because sandboxing for native apps has been a default on OS X for the last 2 OSes at least. Plus, there's another differentiator at play. People don't only stick to a few large websites (like…
I don't think that's a fair comparison..
1) Web apps in this case are downloaded from an app store (and people complained about it too)
2) Average people also use fewer sites: I wouldn't be surprised if regular use comprehends just gmail/outlook, facebook, wikipedia, youtube/netflix
3) You need a browser running in the OS anyway
4) App -> sandbox -> OS vs. App -> Javascript sandbox/Nacl sandbox -> browser -> sandbox -> OS... The latter looks more secure to me
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#96I don't understand Chrome apps. They require installation and only work on Chrome, so they come with none of the benefits of the web. They are slower and uglier than native Windows/Mac/Linux apps. What's the point?
I prefer using my email in the browser over any native email client. And as an added bonus, I get nearly the same user experience across my many disparate devices.
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#97Before Android, I would have been super excited to read this, but now...? Seems like it's yet another technology that Android will soon be steamrolling.
Could you give any reason for your excitement for Android? Android is popular now but that does not mean that it will be popular forever. Fort Model T and Sony Walkman are good examples of things that were popular once.
I never said I was excited about Android nor that it will be popular forever.
I was just observing that Google's strategy regarding Chrome OS makes no sense to me in the presence of Android.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
So browser extensions are bad now? When can HN get off the hate train for everything new? This place is seriously starting to depress me.
Well, most browser extensions relate to browsing. Google, on the other hand, is trying to turn the browser into an OS. This is a really big shift that may very well determine the future of computing, so I think there's plenty here for people to get legitimately angry about. Not really the same kind of "hate train" that occasionally shows up on project posts, I think.
It's not an OS, it's a development platform. Linux/Windows/Mac is the OS.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you give any reason for your excitement for Android? Android is popular now but that does not mean that it will be popular forever. Fort Model T and Sony Walkman are good examples of things that were popular once.
I never said I was excited about Android nor that it will be popular forever. I was just observing that Google's strategy regarding Chrome OS makes no sense to me in the presence of Android.
Android is quite poor desktop OS :)
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#100I look forward to the day when chrome is the only OS and all the proprietary OSs have finally died out.
You don't see Chrome OS as proprietary? It might be "open" but Google surely has a massive stake in it? Surely the least proprietary mainstream OS would be Linux?
I guess the irony didn't come over in my original comment.