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Re: Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?

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The thing with HN is that there are a lot of interesting threads that get increasingly drowned in "drama" contents: stuff about politics, the NSA, silicon valley drama... See the G+ outrage lately: there are three articles about that at the top of the frontpage that say exactly the same thing with exactly the same comments. It's reddit/4chan tier "pitchforking". The problem seems to be that the community is growing q…

Ugh. These meta-HN topics about the "quality" of the discussion come up every six months or so, even dating all the way back to the beginning. Cut it out already.

> Poll: How do you feel about making HN invite only? (5 years ago)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=373789

> Ask HN: Is it just me, or are HN comments becoming more and more negative? (4 years ago)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=926604

> Why people complain about the quality of Hacker News (4 years ago)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=777813

> Ask HN: (Yet Another) HN Comment Quality Going Down? (3 years ago)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1198041

> Hacker News Needs Honeypots (2 years ago)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3166209

Edit: The moderation on this site is as iron-fisted as ever. The problem here is perception.

Re: Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?

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What? SA has possibly the worst community on the web. It keeps people out alright, but not trolls.

I think you might be conflating the terms "troll" and "asshole." If you show up to a subforum on SA and start actually trolling people by posting spam or a bunch of NSFL images or something, you'll get banned pretty much instantly.

That's not trolling, that's vandalism. Trolling is posting things for the sole purpose of inciting flamewars, or getting people to believe you were serious and react with disproportionate fervour.

Re: Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?

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The thing with HN is that there are a lot of interesting threads that get increasingly drowned in "drama" contents: stuff about politics, the NSA, silicon valley drama... See the G+ outrage lately: there are three articles about that at the top of the frontpage that say exactly the same thing with exactly the same comments. It's reddit/4chan tier "pitchforking". The problem seems to be that the community is growing q…

Ugh. These meta-HN topics about the "quality" of the discussion come up every six months or so, even dating all the way back to the beginning. Cut it out already. > Poll: How do you feel about making HN invite only? (5 years ago) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=373789 > Ask HN: Is it just me, or are HN comments becoming more and more negative? (4 years ago) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=926604 > Why peopl…

Just because something gets talked about a lot doesn't mean it's not worth trying to find a solution.

Re: Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?

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I only have 63 points and I can vote (but rarely do). Actually I can only upvote. I think 500 is for downvote rights.

You're right my bad. 500pts to downvote

I wonder if that asymmetry is part of the problem. There's a large population of users who can push junk to the top of the page, and a much smaller population with the ability to downvote it.

Re: Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?

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there are three articles about that at the top of the frontpage that say exactly the same thing with exactly the same comments. Worse, two were based on the same guy at G+ raving about the whole thing.[1] I'm a little curious about how the stories hit the front page and have stayed up so long. I don't know if it's fully organic, if Google's reputation has really suffered that much, if it's specific to the HN communit…

What are some of the good subreddits that would appeal to an HN audience?

It depends on what you're interested in.

I'd start by, say looking at a set of current tech sites, seeing what current articles appeal to you most, and searching for those at Reddit. Look for the subs they turn up in and check out the conversation.

I'm actually mostly following subs that don't have to do with IT issues (programming, systems admin/DevOps, or networking) as I'm finding my interests lie elsewhere. One rule of Reddit is that if you can imagine it, there's a subreddit for it.

One G+ feature I'd liked was the fact that my posts there formed their own channel, a feature somewhat lacking on Reddit. I've created my own user subreddit as a place I can post and curate my own links or discussions. Not sure if I'll keep it but it's an interesting idea.

Re: Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?

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What are some of the good subreddits that would appeal to an HN audience?

Used to be /r/programming... not anymore though. Just go to techcrunch and wired.com, that way you'll see everything that makes it to proggit - but only once, instead of every day for a week. The more specific the better, provided there's a lot of subscribers and there's regular new developments in the topic of interest. So /r/doctorwho sucks pretty hard when the show isn't in season. There's a lot of crocheted figur…

It sounds like /r/doctorwho suffers from a particular thing I've observed, which is that the more specific a subreddit is to some target of fandom, the more likely it's filled with cringeworthy uncritical fanboys.

Re: Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?

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The thing with HN is that there are a lot of interesting threads that get increasingly drowned in "drama" contents: stuff about politics, the NSA, silicon valley drama... See the G+ outrage lately: there are three articles about that at the top of the frontpage that say exactly the same thing with exactly the same comments. It's reddit/4chan tier "pitchforking". The problem seems to be that the community is growing q…

HN should require you solve some form of fizzbuzz to get voting/posting rights

No. Why on earth would they do this?

Re: Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?

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The thing with HN is that there are a lot of interesting threads that get increasingly drowned in "drama" contents: stuff about politics, the NSA, silicon valley drama... See the G+ outrage lately: there are three articles about that at the top of the frontpage that say exactly the same thing with exactly the same comments. It's reddit/4chan tier "pitchforking". The problem seems to be that the community is growing q…

I think HackerNews (and similar sites) would greatly benefit from having submissions grouped by a moderator. Don't display all submissions about NSA or Steve Jobs as separate lines. Display them as a thread, with some general information like "6 submissions, tags: Steve Jobs is still dead, average karma: 703"

  from itertools import groupby
  
  better_hn = sorted(hn, key=topic)
  better_hn = [topic, len(list(submissions))
    for topic, submissions in groupby(better_hn)]

  for line in better_hn:
      print(line)

Re: Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?

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post #23

The thing with HN is that there are a lot of interesting threads that get increasingly drowned in "drama" contents: stuff about politics, the NSA, silicon valley drama... See the G+ outrage lately: there are three articles about that at the top of the frontpage that say exactly the same thing with exactly the same comments. It's reddit/4chan tier "pitchforking". The problem seems to be that the community is growing q…

HN should require you solve some form of fizzbuzz to get voting/posting rights

Not a bad idea at first glance, until you consider the poor guy or gal whose job it is to review them, not to mention the need to prevent people from copy/pasting the answer from a search result. I guess you would have to have a karma threshold before being offered a chance to solve fizzbuzz, in order to keep the volume manageable. For the second issue, you would probably need to do it in person at your local HN branch office and hope your reviewer knows your preferred programming language.

That's not even getting into the discussion of whether programming knowledge is the only field of value for contributors to HN.

That said, it would be interesting if people had to put an answer to fizzbuzz in an area of their profile once they hit the karma threshold in order to get voting rights, (can't be null) and then peers could vote/comment on the answer.

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