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Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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Seems browsers are obsolete and are now just getting in the way. People are trying to use every loophole and new technology possible to bypass features implemented in browsers. I think it's time browsers took a step back and gave more control to developers. It's time for a major rethink of what a browser should be/do.

"Seems browsers are obsolete and are now just getting in the way. People are trying to use every loophole and new technology possible to bypass features implemented in browsers." Warning: unpopular view ahead. It's a bit ranty, too. That's because we're hell-bent on doing everything in browsers in the first place. Somewhere along the way, we collectively decided that write-once run-anywhere would become reality, damn…

Most of you're points I agree with but we tried Native it's not the answer.

With native you have to redo your work multiple times that is not efficient java had the right idea but their implementation is a nightmare.

We need something that would be as simple as using a browser but would act more like a java interpreter under the hood.

But I wouldn't want java or javascript as a language.

We need something that trows exceptions every time you attempt to do something the wrong way like Python because a log of beginners will try and if the language allows it there's going to be a lot of messed up code.

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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They are using CSS3 3d-transforms to create visual interfaces with good performance on modern browsers (including mobile). See: http://famo.us/ (BTW: It took me a while to figure out that if you close the dialog window, you can click the buttons at the bottom for more demo's.) Unfortunately they are only using the webkit-prefixed properties, so their demo doesn't work in Firefox or IE. I'm guessing they wrote their d…

It seems that they will release their software as open source. I couldn't find what license famo.us will use.

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The web is characterised by all code being visible by default, e.g. "View Source" in every browser. It's agnostic on whether you can charge for that source code, but in practical terms it's pretty tough to publish openly readable source and expect people to pay for it.

'View Source' is not freedom: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html Many sites still use JavaScript that way, but some use it for major programs that do large jobs. For instance, Google Docs downloads into your machine a JavaScript program which measures half a megabyte, in a compacted form that we could call Obfuscript because it has no comments and hardly any whitespace, and the method names are one l…

Not a very convincing argument. See for example, http://jsbeautifier.org/
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