HP Chromebook 11 • Hacker News Board

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by AlexDanger » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:31 PM UTC

sneak wrote: post #30

untog wrote: post #10

These things are getting increasingly more tempting. I'm actually in the market for something to give my parents, but I actually think an 11" screen is too small for them. 13" might be more like it, but in all honesty they probably still need a 15" machine. But I'm getting increasingly close to picking up one of these just for the hell of it.

My dad loves his Chromebook. TBH he's older and gets confused pretty easily and I don't think I'd trust him to keep even a Mac free of malware. It's basically only either a thin client or an iPad, and we already FaceTime on his iPhone, so dropping the Apple Tax on another iOS device (that doesn't come with a keyboard) doesn't make sense when Chromebooks are so cheap.

I'm also considering a Chromebook for my dad. He's quite computer literate but not really happy with his Win8 laptop.

A Chromebook would serve all his writing/email/browsing needs, but the only question I have is about USB peripherals - can you plug your digital camera in and have it pop up with all the pictures? And then a nice easy workflow to upload to google drive?

Also I presume it doesnt play nice with iPhones?

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by cdash » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:32 PM UTC

seiji wrote: post #38

alrs wrote: post #7

Hemingway said that one goes broke "gradually, then suddenly." I hope the same thing is happening to Windows marketshare. I hope the same thing is happening to iOS. edit: Note that I said "marketshare." I'm not wishing bankruptcy on Apple and Microsoft. It would be a weird desire.

iOS gives you direct hardware access to the device so you can do photo editing, video editing, music production, high resolution high frame rate gaming, and dozens of other device-local tasks. How does a series of glorified web browser Googlebooks compete with that?

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Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by snarfy » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:34 PM UTC

11.6" display with 16:9 aspect ratio (IPS Panel) 1366 x 768

Meh.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by trsohmers » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:36 PM UTC

nfoz wrote: post #81

joezydeco wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for confirming. I'm a little boggled why HP would roll out an identical product an entire year after the fact, unless HP is just that messed up internally.

Do you remember the HP touchpad fiasco? :)

In some ways I wish Mark Hurd remained HPs CEO. I think they could have really competed with webOS in the long run (be a good 3rd/4th place, making sure the Apple and Google are actually innovating and not becoming a duopoly). Then again, we would never have had the fire sale, and I would never have had the pleasure of working on the Android port to the Touchpad.

I wish they kept Apotheker a bit longer... He had the real potential to be a bigger laughing stock of the technology circle than Ballmer.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by joefarish » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:37 PM UTC

tbassetto wrote: post #5

Wow, it uses a micro USB charger.

Yeah that looks awesome - just get a folding plug and then no more bulky chargers! https://www.themu.co.uk

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by ChikkaChiChi » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:39 PM UTC

josefresco wrote: post #64

Awesome little machine but this brings up questions for me: 1. Do consumers want what is essentially a modern netbook? Didn't this market die once the iPad and tablets took hold? It would seem from recent consumer buying trends that most prefer a touch screen/tablet form factor at this price point/screen size. 2. How does this compare to an Android tablet (Nexus 10) with a high quality keyboard? Or even some of the "…

As a Pixel owner I can confirm that touch on a laptop form factor is somewhat useless. There are precious few times I want to reach out to touch something instead of using the mouse.

The mouse really is a great tool. People need to stop trying to get rid of them.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by bryanlarsen » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:40 PM UTC

seiji wrote: post #38

alrs wrote: post #7

Hemingway said that one goes broke "gradually, then suddenly." I hope the same thing is happening to Windows marketshare. I hope the same thing is happening to iOS. edit: Note that I said "marketshare." I'm not wishing bankruptcy on Apple and Microsoft. It would be a weird desire.

iOS gives you direct hardware access to the device so you can do photo editing, video editing, music production, high resolution high frame rate gaming, and dozens of other device-local tasks. How does a series of glorified web browser Googlebooks compete with that?

You can do all of that on Android (assuming they've fixed the audio latency issues on 4.3 as they promised).

Unification of the two OS's keeps getting rumoured, but never happens.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by mrbill » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:40 PM UTC

Ordered. I absolutely love my ARM-based Chromebook, and have wished for the same specs with a bit better construction and build quality. This is absolutely perfect for my needs, and the keyboard looks to be marginally better as well.

I've hardly touched my MB Air (2012 refurb) since I got the Chromebook. Small and light enough to throw in any bag/backpack without care, cheap enough to not worry about theft.

I don't mind it being the same CPU and RAM specs as the original; I don't need much for the Chrome browser and a SSH session to the beefy server where I do most of my work.

Also owned the C7 Chromebook for a while; upgraded it to SSD and 8G of RAM, but it felt like an abomination with the fans, heat it put out, etc. Sold it to a friend, who absolutely loves it.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by rsheridan6 » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:40 PM UTC

lrizzo wrote: post #90

I really wish i could find a use for the chromebooks for my family, but i failed. This one seems similar to the samsung chromebook, which i tried for a while (also lending it to mother, sister, children) but we all found it basically useless for any everyday task. Surely one can blame the ecosystem; but still the conclusion does not change, and as a comparison, tablets and phones had a more successful approach at ada…

I had the exact opposite experience - our chromebook is used all the time while or tablet collects dust. Having a real keyboard is a big advantage. The features you list that a tablet has that the chromebook doesn't are all on our phones anyway.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by squidi » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:42 PM UTC

snarfy wrote: post #93

11.6" display with 16:9 aspect ratio (IPS Panel) 1366 x 768 Meh.

I hoped that with products like the iPad and Chromebook Pixel we'd get back to taller screens again, at least 16:10. 1366 x 768 is not something I want to go back to.