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Re: Google is Exploring an Alternative to Cookies for Ad Tracking

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How exactly is this more evil than a tracking cookie? To me it sounds pretty much the same.

If it's tied to some "anonymous identifier" in the browser it's also possible to follow you in incognito mode.

I imagine that incognito mode would use a different anonymous identifier.

Re: Google is Exploring an Alternative to Cookies for Ad Tracking

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Except that it won't search for things that look roughly like an URL or a hostname.

Not sure what you mean. If I type "youtube" it starts autocompleting as "youtube.com", but the search results below the bar include youtube.com videos, a random news article with 'youtube' near the end of the URL, etc. If you want to search google or whatever from there just hit spacebar or backspace to reduce it to a bare word, and hit enter. Tbh I prefer this over what Chrome tends to do to me. In Chrome, if I type…

Try doing a search for "foo.bar". When it's a run of non-spaces with a dot Firefox will never do a search and always try to interpret it as a URL. Chrome will instead search for the things it cannot resolve (at the very least don't tell me that no server could be found at something that doesn't even use a registered TLD).

Re: Google is Exploring an Alternative to Cookies for Ad Tracking

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Well, what could they do? Google is not making enough money :P I think in 10 years we'll all be buying ad-supported Google PCs for free and they'll have a little window that you cant get rid of - that will show you ads. And probably have eye tracking that will blank the monitor every hour if you dont look at the ad. Chrome has already turned into a keylogger than can also browse the internet. I remember watching a re…

A computer in 10 years, by Google, that can black out your screen. Google Glass?

What about a google helmet? You cant look away or mute when they show you ads :P

Re: Google is Exploring an Alternative to Cookies for Ad Tracking

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Not sure what you mean. If I type "youtube" it starts autocompleting as "youtube.com", but the search results below the bar include youtube.com videos, a random news article with 'youtube' near the end of the URL, etc. If you want to search google or whatever from there just hit spacebar or backspace to reduce it to a bare word, and hit enter. Tbh I prefer this over what Chrome tends to do to me. In Chrome, if I type…

Try doing a search for "foo.bar". When it's a run of non-spaces with a dot Firefox will never do a search and always try to interpret it as a URL. Chrome will instead search for the things it cannot resolve (at the very least don't tell me that no server could be found at something that doesn't even use a registered TLD).

Aah, yeah, it does do that. I can see that being annoying. And somewhat surprisingly, it doesn't fall back to search if you prefix with a space, so you're practically stuck adding a fake search term or some other annoying kludge...

Fwiw that has also been (generally) preferable for me: going to .local domains is a PITA on Chrome because it tries to search for it first.

Re: Google is Exploring an Alternative to Cookies for Ad Tracking

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Try doing a search for "foo.bar". When it's a run of non-spaces with a dot Firefox will never do a search and always try to interpret it as a URL. Chrome will instead search for the things it cannot resolve (at the very least don't tell me that no server could be found at something that doesn't even use a registered TLD).

Aah, yeah, it does do that. I can see that being annoying. And somewhat surprisingly, it doesn't fall back to search if you prefix with a space, so you're practically stuck adding a fake search term or some other annoying kludge... Fwiw that has also been (generally) preferable for me: going to .local domains is a PITA on Chrome because it tries to search for it first.

You can start with ? (which works in IE and Chrome too to force a search), but then you first have to remove the www. that Firefox helpfully adds ;)

And agreed that Chrome is a little unhelpful there too; I always have to remember prefixing a non-domain hostname in our network with http://. Although by now I resorted to a bookmark.

Re: Google is Exploring an Alternative to Cookies for Ad Tracking

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I honestly don't mind being tracked. I don't know if it's just me but I prefer targeted advertising than just generic one. It's always more relevant and I do end up purchasing. Without tracking, there would be no targeted advertising.

There are ways to do targeted advertising without tracking. For example, you could identify clusters and then have users' browsers do the lifting to determine what cluster they belong in.

Exactly! Or for that matter have clients develop handles for themselves on topics they want, and the advertisers just Multicast the relevant information to the users that have those tags. No need to GUID tracking.

Re: Google is Exploring an Alternative to Cookies for Ad Tracking

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BTW, if anyone is looking for alternative web browsers that you can truly control, and have some of the defaults set for privacy:

Web Browsers GUI: Dooble, GNU IceCat, Luakit, NetSurf, Web/Epiphany (Galeon), Dillo, Amaya (for authoring), Swiftweasel, Conkeror, Arora, Midori, rekonq, Kazehakase

My GUI picks: xombrero, Uzbl, surf (with tabbed, it is amazing), dwb, jumanji

TUI Web browsers: w3m, elinks, links2, Links, Linkx, lynx, cURL, ed browser, wget

Relevant Threads: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=13661&p=1 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=116165

In the future, I wish to have a browser that maps all the cached files, per page you are viewing, with each of the domains, IP address, and the WebSockets connections it makes. Whether it be tree mapped, or tabular, it would be awesome to have a browser monitors all network event and files live, while you are viewing a page, maybe in a tile/window somewhere. For now, we have Jails we can open on the fly, with a new browser instance on each, connected to the custom firewall rules, that opens a page per domain. When done with the page, we get rid of the jail instance.

Re: Google is Exploring an Alternative to Cookies for Ad Tracking

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I switched from FF when it was sluggish. Funny, the reason I don't switch back is the opposite of yours: I don't want to miss Vimium... how does Vimperator compare to Vimium?

I was in the same boat. I tried to switch back to Firefox a while back. Some people prefer Vimperator and Pentadactyl, but after using Vimium for a while, I found them to be a little too complicated and, well, different from what I was used to. It's possible I could have adjusted, but I didn't bother at the time and quickly returned to Chromium. Later I discovered a Firefox addon called VimFX that basically aims to b…

thank you! :)
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