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Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#91

Post by samstave » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 12:43 AM UTC

danneu wrote: post #81

Every time Facebook is brought up, some of us attempt to enumerate the reasons why we ostensibly hate Facebook. But frequently our list just looks like an inventory of our own self-limiting beliefs, bitterness, and narcissism. Perhaps we really hate Facebook so much because it so effortlessly unmasks us and our conflicts with the world. In an impressive dance of culpability evasion, we come here to re-convince oursel…

Funny how your comment comes across very similarly.

"I have it together, and am so self-aware and capable of keeping a balance with my relationship to Facebook. I mean who are these losers that would have a problem with it? I am so much better than they, and I can still have my FB account as well!"

Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#92

Post by richardjordan » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 12:51 AM UTC

I don't get the griping over having to share stuff with people you don't want to - current second ranked comment complaining about professional contacts.

There's no law that says you have to Facebook friend people. I make it clear there's a simple delineation - Facebook is for family and long established friends (going back to elementary level in some cases). LinkedIn is for professional contacts. I publish most things on Facebook for friends only or for public depending on audience. I don't need more granularity than those two options.

Done.

Now I get to keep in touch with old friends and family from all over the world and it makes me smile. It makes me happy to see them happy in their lives.

You don't have to add people who aren't, like ya know, your friends to your Facebook friends list. If you are doing this you need to look at yourself not Facebook for failings.

Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#93

Post by richardjordan » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 12:52 AM UTC

samstave wrote: post #91

danneu wrote: post #81

Every time Facebook is brought up, some of us attempt to enumerate the reasons why we ostensibly hate Facebook. But frequently our list just looks like an inventory of our own self-limiting beliefs, bitterness, and narcissism. Perhaps we really hate Facebook so much because it so effortlessly unmasks us and our conflicts with the world. In an impressive dance of culpability evasion, we come here to re-convince oursel…

Funny how your comment comes across very similarly. "I have it together, and am so self-aware and capable of keeping a balance with my relationship to Facebook. I mean who are these losers that would have a problem with it? I am so much better than they, and I can still have my FB account as well!"

His comment didn't come across like that at all. He just pointed out that the bitterness and vitriol directed towards Facebook seems detached from the experience of folks who use it to keep in touch with family and friends quite happily.

Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#94

Post by richardjordan » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 12:54 AM UTC

zxcvvcxz wrote: post #36

Alright, here are my honest gripes with facebook: - Professional contacts. I can't share anything I consider "funny" (in the stupid, I'm-in-my-early-20s way) with friends because I have investors and recruiters and these other professional fucks ready to judge me. - I'm tired of seeing your achievements. God damn just wait until I get some, okay? I don't care if you just started med school and are posting pics of you…

The anger and bitterness that comes across in this post suggests that Facebook isn't the problem here.

Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#95

Post by rizalp » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 12:58 AM UTC

zxcvvcxz wrote: post #36

Alright, here are my honest gripes with facebook: - Professional contacts. I can't share anything I consider "funny" (in the stupid, I'm-in-my-early-20s way) with friends because I have investors and recruiters and these other professional fucks ready to judge me. - I'm tired of seeing your achievements. God damn just wait until I get some, okay? I don't care if you just started med school and are posting pics of you…

> I'm tired of seeing your achievements. God damn just wait until I get some, okay?

This a million times. For some people, success is a long process. It makes you feel that you are left behind. Doh, just look at how many my friends have married, and have a child drive me nuts

Under calm, positive circumstances, I didn't really care. Sometimes, I even congratulate them. But when I come home from work, tired as hell, and feel that my accomplishment is so little, I don't want to compare my miserable self to you.

I know that I should be grateful to other people success, but sometimes it makes me jealous.

Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#96

Post by rizalp » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 1:03 AM UTC

sean-duffy wrote: post #42

zxcvvcxz wrote: post #36

Alright, here are my honest gripes with facebook: - Professional contacts. I can't share anything I consider "funny" (in the stupid, I'm-in-my-early-20s way) with friends because I have investors and recruiters and these other professional fucks ready to judge me. - I'm tired of seeing your achievements. God damn just wait until I get some, okay? I don't care if you just started med school and are posting pics of you…

To be honest, it just sounds like you care far too much about what other people think of you. Life's too short to please everyone, stop filtering your personality to please those on your friends list.

> I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. – B I L L C O S B Y

Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#97

Post by Gigablah » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 1:04 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #48

psychotik wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to judge, isn't it? It takes some courage to be honest and introspective, regardless of how you may judge the poster. What you say about this person says as much about you as it does about them.

Can you show me at what point there was some actual evaluation of why he was doing the things he was ? Because sorry but I don't see anything courageous or introspective there. I just see a blind rant by somebody who clearly cares way too much about what his friends think.

I don't know if you should take his post at face value, seems like he's just describing an exaggerated persona to support his conclusion.

Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#98

Post by qu4z-2 » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 1:18 AM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #35

smsm42 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I practically stopped taking photos on vacations. I discovered I am replacing actual experiences with attempt to record the experience for some future myself, thus sacrificing my present enjoyment for the shadow of future recollection of the enjoyment that I didn't actually have because I was too busy trying to record it.

Yeah, a bad analogy would be throwing a party vs being invited. All in all it feels very weird how this 'data' era is twisting our conception of 'existing'. It seems like a gigantic ball of noise, no signal. Too much content of lowered moments. Very unsettling. Slightly digressing, I'm also having a non-digital reaction. I used to love the unaltered quality of digital data versus fragile analogical mediums. But now I…

I don't know if this is up your alley, but have you looked into the aesthetic called 'wabi-sabi'?

Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#99

Post by samstave » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 1:25 AM UTC

richardjordan wrote: post #93

samstave wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny how your comment comes across very similarly. "I have it together, and am so self-aware and capable of keeping a balance with my relationship to Facebook. I mean who are these losers that would have a problem with it? I am so much better than they, and I can still have my FB account as well!"

His comment didn't come across like that at all. He just pointed out that the bitterness and vitriol directed towards Facebook seems detached from the experience of folks who use it to keep in touch with family and friends quite happily.

If you re-read his comment, its filled with as much vitriol and bitterness.

Re: Facebook is bad for you: Get a life

#100

Post by westicle » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 1:34 AM UTC

throwmeaway33 wrote: post #77

jonknee wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No advanced society (past a certain GDP) has slipped back into tyranny What are you talking about? There are advanced societies today that are in the middle of tyranny (Russia and China come to mind) and there are very well known examples of societies slipping into it (Germany and Japan come to mind). National moods can change surprisingly quickly. Look at gay rights for a recent example in the US--public opinion h…

None of those societies are modern by current standard and none had truly stable functioning democracies(russia and china? you can't be serious). I don't have a direct link to a study, but I'll quote this article http://thediplomat.com/2013/02/13/5-ways-china-could-become-... "Statistical analysis shows that authoritarian regimes become progressively more unstable (and democratic transitions more likely) once income…

I can't tell if you're joking to make a point. Japan and Germany aren't "modern" societies?

And now you're just shifting the goalposts. You never mentioned anything about democracy in the grandparent post. I would also note that Germany is democratic.