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Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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"Quote" the search term. That's the replacement for +.

I'm not sure if my memory is playing tricks on my, but I've found quotes unreliable. Google will spit out "close" suggestions that have nothing to do with what I requested, despite using quotes. Google also happily returns results which do not fulfill even the "close" suggestions: e.g. I ask for three words, Google searches for those three words, and returns a bunch of pages that contain only two or one of those word…

> I'm not sure if my memory is playing tricks on my, but I've found quotes unreliable. Google will spit out "close" suggestions that have nothing to do with what I requested, despite using quotes.

I noticed the same a few months ago. If you want an exact match you have to click on "Search tools" >> "All results" >> "Verbatim".

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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This supposedly doesn't count yahoo's recent acquisition - Tumblr - either. http://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthof/2013/08/21/yahoo-tops-...

It does in the sense that millions of teenagers thought after hearing about the acquisition "WTF is Yahoo?, googled them and visited them.

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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Very true, glad I'm not the only one to have noticed this. And I've got a suggestion for a search engine so intelligent - well relatively - it took google back to school and enrolled it in kindergarten. I find myself using it whenever Google gets stumped; it consistently gives better results in the sense that I feel it has a better understanding of my query. Take this example that prompted my above semi-hyperbole. Ba…

You're definitely not the only one to have noticed this. Microsoft has been trying to get the EU to force Google to continue to rank the spam highly, under the pretext that fake "shopping" and "review" sites and shitty "vertical search engines" that can't actually find anything and get all their traffic through SEO are competitors to Google and deranking them is anti-competitive.

It's up to Google whether to rank spam or genuine good sites highly.

Right now it's either vertical searches or spam most of time.

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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I "Google" less and less for search results, as they become increasingly crap. They are mostly best for "big name" items; also, the prominence of StackOverflow means that some computer technology queries still work pretty well. These days, I'm fortunate when I know specifically enough what I want that I can jump straight into Wikipedia and hopefully find an adequate page. Whatever you are and aren't doing about it, G…

Google engineer here. We run experiments that show ranking improvements before launching changes to how we interpret query words. I would guess that for every time you notice Google "ignoring the word you asked for," there were several times where we got you the right result even though it didn't have the exact words you asked for, and you didn't even notice. We're not perfect but we're always working on improvements…

> "there were several times where we got you the right result even though it didn't have the exact words you asked for"

How do you know that? Just because I click on a result doesn't mean it was the correct one. I usually click on A LOT of results just to check if MAYBE there is something relevant (which is mostly not, especially with Google lately).

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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"Quote" does not work these days, it still presents results you with alternatives to the "Quote".

You need to use "verbatim" mode. It's under "Search tools" and then in the dropdown starting with "All results".

Oh so that's what this "verbatim" thing is, I'll look into it thanks.

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I "Google" less and less for search results, as they become increasingly crap. They are mostly best for "big name" items; also, the prominence of StackOverflow means that some computer technology queries still work pretty well. These days, I'm fortunate when I know specifically enough what I want that I can jump straight into Wikipedia and hopefully find an adequate page. Whatever you are and aren't doing about it, G…

I felt a bit like you until I added a "goodgle" search engine in my chrome, basically forcing Verbatim at each Google search (appending &tbs=li:1), and forcing English to be the base language, instead of whatever country I am finding myself in at the moment. Then, I tweaked the results by manually ignoring a couple domains, and now, Google is sort of usable again for my personal taste. Unlike you though, spam (at lea…

Oops, I can't edit my post anymore, but I wanted to add a little tip for Firefox users (as it is very good now), this addon[1] adds a search engine that does exactly what I do with my custom engine in Chrome.

Funny thing, I did not make this myself, which shows me clearly that I am not the only one feeling this way.

[1]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-1/?src...

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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I "Google" less and less for search results, as they become increasingly crap. They are mostly best for "big name" items; also, the prominence of StackOverflow means that some computer technology queries still work pretty well. These days, I'm fortunate when I know specifically enough what I want that I can jump straight into Wikipedia and hopefully find an adequate page. Whatever you are and aren't doing about it, G…

A conspiracy theorist looking at Google's ad clicks numbers might say that better results equal less clicks on ads. Mind you, that on commercial searches essentially all you see is ads. This works up to a point, a tipping point that is. I think Google is unusable now for commercial searches, all you see is ads and eBay, Amazon and other megacorps. Up to a few years ago, I would have never believed that Google crafted…

Sometime ago I had an idea of making a non-commercial search engine that would only search the non-commercial web. All pages that accept payments or show ads would be out.

Re: Yahoo tops Google in US traffic

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I "Google" less and less for search results, as they become increasingly crap. They are mostly best for "big name" items; also, the prominence of StackOverflow means that some computer technology queries still work pretty well. These days, I'm fortunate when I know specifically enough what I want that I can jump straight into Wikipedia and hopefully find an adequate page. Whatever you are and aren't doing about it, G…

Google engineer here. We run experiments that show ranking improvements before launching changes to how we interpret query words. I would guess that for every time you notice Google "ignoring the word you asked for," there were several times where we got you the right result even though it didn't have the exact words you asked for, and you didn't even notice. We're not perfect but we're always working on improvements…

I guess you're right that we don't notice. I just searched for "Jim Otteson", only to be given results for "James Otteson". Same person, big help.

At other times, verbatim yields the best results. I guess I just wish there was a link next to the search results that let you repeat the search verbatim, so that we wouldn't have to go all the way to Advanced Search.

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