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Re: Google +1's Correlation with Higher Search Rankings

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Post by johnward »

markadoi84 wrote: post #87
umsm wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that people that want to avoid a question do best to answer it using terminology which can be interpreted in many ways. Politicians have been known to do this. That being said, he probably answered the question as well as he can or wants to. It's pointless to nitpick.

Agreed - perhaps he could have used more explicit language but, as you rightly said, I think he had answered that question already. I know he's public enemy #1 amongst some SEOs but people should stop being so rude to the guy!

I don't know if your comment is directed at me, but I don't feel I was rude to him at all. I do see a lot of hate for Cutts from SEOs, but they hate Google anyway. Cutts is just a face to Google that they can focus on.

Re: Google +1's Correlation with Higher Search Rankings

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Post by NickKer »

Matt_Cutts wrote: post #20

Just trying to decide the politest way to debunk the idea that more Google +1s lead to higher Google web rankings. Let's start with correlation != causation: http://xkcd.com/552/ But it would probably be better to point to this 2011 post (also from SEOMoz/Moz) from two years ago in which a similar claim was made about Facebook shares: http://moz.com/blog/does-google-use-facebook-shares-to-influ... . From that blog po…

Just a thought: When publishing correlation articles, maybe responsible authors should set up some kind of verification system where the reader must demonstrate that they understand that correlation does not equal causation before they are even allowed to read the article.​

Otherwise, we end up with all these knuckleheads running around saying "Moz said that +1s are the key to high rankings and you have to have lots of them! Who wants to buy 10,000 plus ones from me?"

Re: Google +1's Correlation with Higher Search Rankings

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Post by singlesource »

Ever noticed the only people building links and discussing links are SEO’s? (Hi Matt, love your work).

Expecting google to say yes or no on SEO issues is like asking your girlfriends father how to get into her pants. Unlikely to happen.

G+ is a crucial tool for connecting all Google properties together and staying relevant in a mobile world.

Check out this post from Ed Dale. http://www.eddale.co/apple/a-pig-just-flew-buy-and-hes-belti...

Then tell me it's not good business sense to give us all a gentle nudge towards G+.

Re: Google +1's Correlation with Higher Search Rankings

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Post by StefanBielau »

Matt_Cutts wrote: post #20

Just trying to decide the politest way to debunk the idea that more Google +1s lead to higher Google web rankings. Let's start with correlation != causation: http://xkcd.com/552/ But it would probably be better to point to this 2011 post (also from SEOMoz/Moz) from two years ago in which a similar claim was made about Facebook shares: http://moz.com/blog/does-google-use-facebook-shares-to-influ... . From that blog po…

With regards to the ranking of an app in Google Play, would you make the same statement?

Re: Google +1's Correlation with Higher Search Rankings

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Post by markadoi84 »

johnward wrote: post #91
markadoi84 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed - perhaps he could have used more explicit language but, as you rightly said, I think he had answered that question already. I know he's public enemy #1 amongst some SEOs but people should stop being so rude to the guy!

I don't know if your comment is directed at me, but I don't feel I was rude to him at all. I do see a lot of hate for Cutts from SEOs, but they hate Google anyway. Cutts is just a face to Google that they can focus on.

Not you to be fair - but a fair few other people are.

Re: Google +1's Correlation with Higher Search Rankings

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Post by seogroup »

Matt_Cutts wrote: post #20

Just trying to decide the politest way to debunk the idea that more Google +1s lead to higher Google web rankings. Let's start with correlation != causation: http://xkcd.com/552/ But it would probably be better to point to this 2011 post (also from SEOMoz/Moz) from two years ago in which a similar claim was made about Facebook shares: http://moz.com/blog/does-google-use-facebook-shares-to-influ... . From that blog po…

Nobody has mentioned how sassy Matt's statement was...

"Just trying to decide the POLITEST way to debunk the idea that more Google +1s lead to higher Google web rankings."

....does that mean has thinking about getting nasty?

Re: Google +1's Correlation with Higher Search Rankings

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Post by darrelljason »

threeseed wrote: post #77
garysieling wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience has been that making better content is great for getting more readers, but not for SEO, which in the long term is fine because it removes the risk of having to chase algorithm changes. When I switched from writing to fill holes in search results to writing for specific communities (including g+ groups) my readership shot up, but the SEO part has stayed pretty flat. It's possible I have something set up…

Exactly. Great content is often succinct and simple to comprehend. SEO wants your content to be full of unnecessary keywords that match the search terms which conflicts with this.

>Great content is often succinct and simple to comprehend.

>SEO wants your content to be full of unnecessary keywords that match the search terms which conflicts with this.

That's where it pays to have an awesome copywriter who can craft in those keywords, keep it succinct and unnoticeable to the reader yet let Google know what the post's about.

People are associating all the old SEO tactics to the new search. They're incompatible. SEO is more about quality content than ever - and that doesn't just mean writing something that makes sense and isn't stuffed with keywords.

SEOs who don't get this by now won't. Ever.

Re: Google +1's Correlation with Higher Search Rankings

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Post by gregrysmith »

I think that seomoz is a bad website for people looking to educate theirselves, and for newbies looking to learn new marketing techniques, etc. SEOMoz is nothing more than a huge guest posting platform. No one really knows what to believe from that site. Google should regulate mass production of guest posts, such as this.

Re: Google +1's Correlation with Higher Search Rankings

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Post by maribel »

Matt_Cutts wrote: post #20

Just trying to decide the politest way to debunk the idea that more Google +1s lead to higher Google web rankings. Let's start with correlation != causation: http://xkcd.com/552/ But it would probably be better to point to this 2011 post (also from SEOMoz/Moz) from two years ago in which a similar claim was made about Facebook shares: http://moz.com/blog/does-google-use-facebook-shares-to-influ... . From that blog po…

Thank GOD for this. I hate social media and rather focus on my site.
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