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Fine. If that's what you want to call it. I just want to point out alternatives. Take it or leave it.
You weren't just pointing out alternatives but actively dissuading someone. That's where I think it crosses the line.
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#92Perhaps slightly off-topic: The name, GmailSharedTasks, doesn't look like one that Google's legal department would agree with. Your brand/product name incorporates a Google trademark. It might have been better to call it "SharedTasks for Google Tasks™" or "SharedTasks for Gmail™".
See "I'm a developer and used Google's developer products/tools to create a new product. Can I use the Google name?" on http://www.google.com/permissions/faq.html
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#93Developed an app for Android and placed it on Android market. It had 5000 users after a week and then it got removed without notice, no email, no reason why, no nothing. First and last time I do anything with Google, malicious company not only for that reason but for many other.
Karma of zero, with an account created 11 hours ago. You, you really aren't persuasive for anyone.
Yes, you saw through me. I created this account 11 hours ago to make a fake response to a news article submitted 4 hours ago. I do not see how my credability increases if its 1 or 1000 days, you are still need to have the trust of an anonymous user which you pick to have or not. Usually you pick not to have to if it disagrees with your already established oppinion.
I usually lurk, I probably make an average of 5 comments per month. When I do make a comment, not only on HN I usually make a new account.
Re: “Please let me know if I should stop developing apps for Google Products”
#94Developed an app for Android and placed it on Android market. It had 5000 users after a week and then it got removed without notice, no email, no reason why, no nothing. First and last time I do anything with Google, malicious company not only for that reason but for many other.
What was the app?
A music player.
Re: “Please let me know if I should stop developing apps for Google Products”
#95If you build something on someone else's API, you can get fucked in a million ways. They might shut down the API (Google Reader), take away the functionality you relied on (Google Calendar), limit it (Twitter) or deprecate the version you're using, forcing you to do development work to keep working at the worst possible time for you (IOS). They might also decide that your product is very good and build a version of i…
Build your solution suitably decoupled, such that if you lose access to the API you can easily switch to another provided. Ideally build solutions across two competitors services such that if you get any surprises it's clear that your solution works / users are able to migrate to the alternate provider.
For authentication I'd argue in some ways it's better to provide the option of third-party. This means users don't have to submit credentials to you. Given most people (against advice to the contrary) use the same username and password for most sites signing up to an unknown company's service feels riskier as they're then giving that company their credentials, which someone may then try on other sites - having a token which allows them to sign in with their Google/FB/Twitter/etc account saves this worry / only requires the user to hit an "authorise" button.
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I'm a DevRel person working for Google's Apps APIs, please contact me.
Hello @thejbf, I am not able to get your email from Hacker News, please send a test email to me at anurag.ait@gmail.com. Thanks for helping out
Try googling for the Hacker News usernames of these people who're trying to help you. Very likely you'll find them on Twitter, LinkedIn etc.
E: If you haven't already done this, of course.
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You should check out Bitcoin as a payment option, it was pretty much designed for your use case: http://www.weusecoins.com/en/ BitPay as a payment processor in particular: https://bitpay.com/
That's a terrible idea. Bitcoin is difficult to use for both buyer and seller, has high transaction costs, and is associated in the minds of many customers with illegal transactions. All that is secondary though to the extreme lack of stability of value, which is pretty important in a medium of exchange. You might as well be telling him to accept tulips.
High transaction costs? Do you have even the slightest idea of what you're talking about? Bitcoin has pretty much the lowest transaction fees of any payment method, and you can even opt out of transaction fees if you're willing to wait slightly longer for processing.
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You weren't just pointing out alternatives but actively dissuading someone. That's where I think it crosses the line.
http://xkcd.com/386/
Yeah I mean it's not like I explained to you why I felt it was inappropriate in a succinct way in my spare time. (That is exactly what I did)
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You should beware that converting bitcoins into INR is going to prove difficult in India. I have not yet heard of a single bitcoin exchange for Indian (INR) users. Correct me if I am wrong.
that's what BitPay.com is for - pays out in local currency
(On a bit of a tangent here:) The primary win of BitPay (and bitcoins in general) seems to the elimination of chargebacks. This is good for merchants, but not-so-great for customers.
It especially isn't suitable for an environment like eBay where you could potentially have less than trusthworthy sellers. In such a situation it is necessary and beneficial to have some sort of middleman (could even be the government), that you could go to, in case whatever you "bought" wasn't what the seller represented it to be (or really any other such issue).
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That's a terrible idea. Bitcoin is difficult to use for both buyer and seller, has high transaction costs, and is associated in the minds of many customers with illegal transactions. All that is secondary though to the extreme lack of stability of value, which is pretty important in a medium of exchange. You might as well be telling him to accept tulips.
High transaction costs? Do you have even the slightest idea of what you're talking about? Bitcoin has pretty much the lowest transaction fees of any payment method, and you can even opt out of transaction fees if you're willing to wait slightly longer for processing.
Transaction fees aren't the only cost. You get killed on the bid/ask spread because the USD/BTC market is very illiquid as compared to say USD/INR. The INR/BTC market is so thin you'd be lucky to get fills at all.
I'd be interested to see someone do a USD -> BTC -> INR -> BTC -> USD and see a) if it's even possible in a reasonable amount of time and b) at what cost.
Edit: here's a link to an Indian "local integration partner" of bitpay http://indiabitcoin.com/. They are buying bitcoins for 82% of what they are selling them for.