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Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#91

Post by robomartin »

I've been using Yahoo mail for many, many years. I've always been happy with it. I've tweaked some of it with my own custom CSS here and there and it's great. At some level it feels very much like running Outlook on the desktop, which is what I run for my businesses (I run multiple simultaneous instances of Outlook accessing a separate database per business).

I tried Gmail a few years ago and it simply did not hold a candle to the speed and convenience of Yahoo's offering. They've done a few things I am not thrilled about on the last major update but they seem to be tweaking it behind the scenes.

Beyond that, I've been very much against relying on Google for anything that is critical to my business. Why? They can shut down your entire account and every single Google service you use in a microsecond. When they do you will not know why and you will have no sensible path to addressing or even discovering the problem. That, to me, is the deal breaker. Why cares about the minutiae of their UI, setup, lists, tabs, spam filtering, etc. Your email account can evaporate overnight and you will not be able to do a thing about it. I, frankly, don't cannot comprehend why any business person would even consider using them.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#92

Post by jcrites »

vorporeal wrote: post #25
johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

Social and Promotions should basically just contain the "unimportant crap". If something is mis-categorized, you can drag it to the correct section and Gmail should learn from its mistake. Also, as mentioned below, you can revert to the un-tabbed inbox by going to the Inbox section of the settings and disabling all tabs other than Primary, or by selecting one of the split inboxes (Unread first, Priority, etc). Discla…

Hi Vorporeal,

May I contact you with a Google question? I've encountered a technical problem which I would like to report, but I am having trouble finding an appropriate communication channel. The technical problem itself is interfering with my ability to use the typical channels.

If you are willing to help point me in the redirect direction, then please contact me via the info in my profile. (I was hoping to contact you privately, but your profile is blank.)

I won't harass you, and I don't expect support from you personally - I'm just hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction, in terms of how to report the tech problem.

Thank you!

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#93

Post by omaranto »

babuskov wrote: post #26
VikingCoder wrote: post #4

- Get a 1920x1080 monitor. No, really. Decent ones are cheap and awesome. That said, sure, GMail could support other resolutions better. I have to make my window tiny in order to make Reply remotely unusable - what's your problem with it? - I have the "Undo Send" Labs features enabled, so I can undo a lot more than your unintentional sends. I can undo my intentional but ill-considered sends, too. - I can go to Google…

- I cannot get 1920x1080 monitor on a laptop. It would defeat the purpose. My problem is this: http://backwardcompatible.net/images/gmail.png * top posting is useless when you have long e-mail with 6-10 points to address in it. * being able to see 7 lines at a time is my real problem * the other real problem is when I have a 100-line email with 10 points to address in it and 10th point ends on line 34, I want to be a…

I don't think you understand how Undo Send works. You don't have to wait when you send an email, as soon as you click send you are free to do whatever else you want.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#94

Post by ChuckMcM »

johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

Yes, it is nearly unusable for me now and it is getting worse. I've thought a lot about it and I believe the problem is related to the requirement of getting new users. Back when Gmail was 'new' it had to be like Eudora or another standalone mail program (or Netscape Communicator if you remember that far back) in order to convert people. It did a good job, but 'new' people, people who have never used a standalone email client think it is 'clunky' and 'ugly.' To get those people it had to be more like IM or facebook A big square to type in, and then trying desperately to pick the right person to send to. Things we oldsters did all the time like maintain multiple email identities was 'cruft', people who called each other 'bro' and 'totalph33r' were the target demographic for the 'new' users. And to some extent all those people who really don't know of what email really is but they use it anyway.

Computer users, which is to say people who use computation devices for arbitrary tasks, and invent new uses on the fly, are not the majority demographic anymore. We are a 'specialty group.'

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#95

Post by eurleif »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #94
johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

Yes, it is nearly unusable for me now and it is getting worse. I've thought a lot about it and I believe the problem is related to the requirement of getting new users. Back when Gmail was 'new' it had to be like Eudora or another standalone mail program (or Netscape Communicator if you remember that far back) in order to convert people. It did a good job, but 'new' people, people who have never used a standalone ema…

For what it's worth, my mother -- who is not at all good with computers -- was upset about the new Gmail compose UI too.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#96

Post by _pmf_ »

johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

Having to use the new Google Groups, I'm really, really glad I never went the GMail way.

Seriously, the Groups interface is an abomination. "Post" at the top? Really? I had to look for about 30 seconds to find the button when switching from the clear old Google Groups interface to the new mess.

"Ma, look! We're native mobile! Ma! MA! Look! Mobile! Ma!"

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#97

Post by ChuckMcM »

eurleif wrote: post #95
ChuckMcM wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it is nearly unusable for me now and it is getting worse. I've thought a lot about it and I believe the problem is related to the requirement of getting new users. Back when Gmail was 'new' it had to be like Eudora or another standalone mail program (or Netscape Communicator if you remember that far back) in order to convert people. It did a good job, but 'new' people, people who have never used a standalone ema…

For what it's worth, my mother -- who is not at all good with computers -- was upset about the new Gmail compose UI too.

Excellent, you've made my day. Perhaps they will pull back from the brink.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#98

Post by wutbrodo »

justinreeves wrote: post #55
barbs wrote: post #28

Not to mention the fact that Yahoo! actually cares about their users' privacy: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/07/yahoo-fight-for-users-...

Do they really? https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-2013

I sympathize with the attempt, but you're in the wrong place for anything but incoherent babbling when it comes to Google.

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#99

Post by airtonix »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #94
johnyzee wrote: post #14

GMail is deteriorating. I loathe the new 'reduced' inline reply UI. Half the time I am searching for how to reveal the sender address or subject field because I need to change them, but GMail seems to think this is an edge use case. Today I got the new tabbed inboxes - 'Primary', 'Social' and 'Promotions'. Lots of important email is now out of view from the primary inbox and buried with unimportant crap. This is so f…

Yes, it is nearly unusable for me now and it is getting worse. I've thought a lot about it and I believe the problem is related to the requirement of getting new users. Back when Gmail was 'new' it had to be like Eudora or another standalone mail program (or Netscape Communicator if you remember that far back) in order to convert people. It did a good job, but 'new' people, people who have never used a standalone ema…

eh? change it in the settings. settings/inbox/type

Re: Yahoo Mail is not catching up anymore

#100

Post by airtonix »

alttab wrote: post #87
jiggy2011 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the logic behind the new tiny compose window, it looks like something from an IM program. If I'm composing an email surely the most important thing is the thing I am composing, so why give it 1/4 of the screen space? The second most important thing is the email I am replying to, but the compose window pops up over the top of that obscuring a chunk of it.

Whats even more confusing, is when I double-click on users I used to use to g-chat to, it pulls up the message and I end up e-mailing them instead of messaging them. This is easier to do now that the e-mail window looks like a chat window. I've noticed others doing this as well. They e-mail me without a subject and its context is from a recent chat.

that's because they're offline. if they were online then you'd get the chat message dialogs. makes left sense to me.
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