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Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

#91

As much as there has been lots of trash talking here about Neocities due to it being 'just' HTML and CSS, I teach high school kids on a semi-regular basis (teaching summer camp right now) and that's the thing they're _most_ jazzed about. I told them all to sign up. They were super pumped.

Not to mention JS. There's a LOT you can do with that.

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

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post #84

As much as there has been lots of trash talking here about Neocities due to it being 'just' HTML and CSS, I teach high school kids on a semi-regular basis (teaching summer camp right now) and that's the thing they're _most_ jazzed about. I told them all to sign up. They were super pumped.

and javascript!! You can do anything in javascript ... want a database, no problem, store it as json and use js. You can not run any server side scripting like jsp or php, but you can pull files down and process them locally. Sure, you're not going to store a massive database in json and process it locally, but you can do a lot with this and a little creativity.

Can you put the files back again? If you can write data back again then you've got enough for a full platform.

If it allowed that and directories. I've already written the environment that would give you a full desktop.

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

#94
This is quickly becoming the HN community's favorite little project. It's nothing new yet I just like seeing it flourish and get excited about it. Because there's no PHP code allowed it forces you to keep it simple. The anonymity just lets people really vent their frustrations or ideas without fear of messing up or having their credit card or name associated with it. And static CSS & HTML sites is where so many of us got started. I love it. Keep up the good work.

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

#95

Woo, thanks for the shoutout to Ten Megabyte Manifesto [0] again. 20 megabytes is likely a good thing (and I guess I have to update my manifesto a little bit! though I maintain that you can still build quality stuff in under 10MB of html/css/js), and the promise of a better upload interface is great too. I'm hoping you'll choose to/be able to implement directory support but any improvement in the meantime is great. K…

Directories are not impossible, I'm just not sure how to make the interface for them look good and work well. It's more a UX problem than a coding one. I would love some suggestions/sketches/wireframes to improve the editing dashboard to enable this. Please send me an e-mail if you have any ideas here.

What about something like mod_dir? Maybe just ftp for the interface? Would that require more overhead or dangerous permissions? Maybe.

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what "ghetto-fabulousness" means but NeoCities is not a revolt against good web design, and it's not a ghetto. I like beautiful web sites. I love the new site design. I think most people will appreciate the new site. I have metrics, so if they don't, I'll know pretty quickly and make the appropriate adjustments. Thank you for your concern though.

Just so everybody knows what we're talking about, this is the screenshot of the new front page design we're working on: https://raw.github.com/kyledrake/neocities-web/master/files/...

It lacks a few things that the old site had but this is a visually striking improvement.

It should empower the user - that new header is like "WE'RE NEOCITIES, (psst, you can make a site or, instead, consume content below from less lazy people). The "it's your site, your vision" is a nice tagline/alternative to "Create a site."

Oddly enough, the "Create my site" button is now lower on the page and smaller than it used to be. There's so much empty space at the top of the header that the call to action is less dramatic (despite the red button).

The lack of a "sign in" button near the create is a bit sad. Yeah, not completely hidden but having a small "sign in" near the create button shouldn't be that big of a burden.

Looking pretty good besides those things. I know you're getting a million and one remarks about this, but I think it's all in hopes it helps further your vision. Please consider some of the things said - even just a tiny bit ;).

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

#100
Kyle, I have a few gripes concerning the sign-up page:

1. It would be pretty cool if the availability of the name could be checked instantly

2. When there's an error on the signup page, for whatever reason: please don't RE-SEND a captcha if the previous one was validated, and please don't ask me to retype my password. Those two UX mistakes are very common, but as a user they are kind of infuriating.

A quick suggestion as well: it would be cool if there was a way to manage several sites while logging on a single email / pw.

Thanks a lot anyway!

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