Yasiin Bey (aka Mos Def) force-fed under standard Guantánamo Bay procedure

Post by jayfuerstenberg » Tue, Jul 09, 2013, 2:33 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #50

epistasis wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but they were caught fighting against Allied forces in a war zone. Wow, that is incredibly misinformed. And even if it were true (it is not), it does not justify torture. Torture is always despicable, and there's a permanent moral stain on the nation that perpetrates torture, no matter who is being tortured. There is no excuse. No excuse.

Torture is despicable, but there is an ongoing debate about whether anything going on at Guantanamo (as opposed to Abu Ghraib) is actually torture under the international definitions. It's not a settled issue like you're making it out to be.

Post by bayesianhorse » Tue, Jul 09, 2013, 11:17 AM UTC

simonsarris wrote: post #7

herge wrote: post #2

Recently read a headline I could not believe was not from The Onion: "Guantanamo Bay Prisoners force fed at night during Ramadan"

Isn't that consistent with normal force-feeding, except its properly respecting Ramadan? The fast of Ramadan begins at sunrise and ends at sunset. So force-feeding them at night is the religiously observant thing to do. (To say nothing about force-feeding in general)

Post by jlgreco » Tue, Jul 09, 2013, 10:59 PM UTC

Shivetya wrote: post #94

mcphilip wrote: post #10

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