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Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by EthanEtienne » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 7:03 PM UTC

shelltreader wrote: post #78

Unfortunately, the title is very misleading. I was looking forward to reading about how to "properly" do it. Website plagiarism is one of the hardest things to prove because the proof can't be design similarity; even though, the website's design is intellectual property and copyrighted. The de facto for website developers has been to include a code in their images and to replace common design elements with company lo…

I think I misread your comment, you wanted the article to be a how-to on how to plagiarize?

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by jkimmel » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 7:14 PM UTC

euxneks wrote: post #51

dasil003 wrote: post #22

This is nothing. Our 100k line vod web app was ripped off wholesale, with a new backend built from scratch, and repurposed to show pirate content. This was some serious engineering chops and time investment that went into a ripping off a site with hundreds upon hundreds of templates and thousands of lines of js and ajax interacting with an unknown backend that had to be reverse-engineered. We discovered it because th…

Did you guys write an article about that? That sounds supremely interesting.

I too would love to see a write up of some sort. Now that, that sounds like flattery.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by spacecadet » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 7:14 PM UTC

I would be embarrassed to spend that time writing that blog post when both sites look like templates.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by Samuel_Michon » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 7:41 PM UTC

pipecork wrote: post #6

Marketers take note. This link could also be titled "How to properly deal with plagiarism of your own website." Acting like a good sport with an even better sense of humor will win you many customers.

> Acting like a good sport with an even better sense of humor will win you many customers.

I agree, they should’ve done that. As the post is now, I don’t feel it is especially funny and I don’t see them being a good sport either.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by jlgreco » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 8:03 PM UTC

ChikkaChiChi wrote: post #70

gk1 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Are you saying they are arrogant for outing a plagiarizer?

"But after some thought, Darko, our design lead (he's a very nice person) convinced me to give you guys the benefit of the doubt and not send the Croatian emmigration in Australia (known for working as bouncers and construction workers) knocking at your door." Yeah. You tend to lose the moral initiative when you pretend you have the backing of some nefarious street thugs. PS: Thanks for stereotyping Croatians, asshol…

I suspect that Tomislav Car meant no slight against the people of Croatia considering that he is Croatian.

If anything that is some stereotyping about bouncers and construction workers... but not really I think.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by tmoertel » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 8:05 PM UTC

In our brave new information-sharing world, the time to start worrying is when you create something and it isn't plagiarized.

A couple of years ago, I wrote a job ad to help the startup I was working at hire programmers. I spent a lot of time getting the words just right to attract the right candidates.

And then, shortly after our ad hit the Internet, some other company copied it, nearly verbatim, and started using it to hire exactly the candidates we were trying to reach. [1] And then, a month or so later, I found that the ad copy was making rounds on the usual job sites, having been adopted by a number of recruiters and companies wanting to hire programmers skilled at functional programming.

At first, I was angry. But then I realized that plagiarism is the new normal. If you write something and it's on the Internet, it's going to be plagiarized.

Unless it's not worth plagiarizing.

But that bar is so low that, if you're not hitting it, ...

[1] http://blog.moertel.com/posts/2011-07-10-good-enough-to-stea...

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by 205guy » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 8:29 PM UTC

notahacker wrote: post #67

kamakazizuru wrote: post #27

am I the only one who doesnt find the sites that similar after all? Or to put it another way - neither of them seem particularly unique (fixed header, slider on top, broad sections and large footer) compared to many marketing sites these days?

Did nobody asking this question look at this screenshot: http://www.infinum.co/system/uploads/2013-06/kintek/kintek-f... Look at the area immediately below the fold. It's one of the most blatant examples of plagiarism I've ever seen. It's arguably worse than simple wholesale lifting of css, since they've carefully and deliberately redrawn distinctive design elements, and lifted half the copy as well And this is a med…

Um, did you know that "awards" in the software industry are a sort of marketing gray area where companies pay a lot for a submission to some "organization" who then hands out "awards" and "nomiations" that can be advertized on websites?

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by 205guy » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 8:32 PM UTC

Ygor wrote: post #8

The best part is that the plagiarized site is a nominee for a css design prize? Infinum is one of the top developers here in Croatia. Nice to see them responding well to this.

I'll copy what I wrote in another comment: Um, did you know that "awards" in the software industry are a sort of marketing gray area where companies pay a lot for a submission to some "organization" who then hands out "awards" and "nomiations" that can be advertized on websites?

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by snedzad » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 8:51 PM UTC

There were so many "they copied us" threads on HN, that I am starting to think that the tactic is being used to promote author's own services, rather than to serve as something else.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by notahacker » Wed, Jun 26, 2013, 9:00 PM UTC

205guy wrote: post #97

notahacker wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did nobody asking this question look at this screenshot: http://www.infinum.co/system/uploads/2013-06/kintek/kintek-f... Look at the area immediately below the fold. It's one of the most blatant examples of plagiarism I've ever seen. It's arguably worse than simple wholesale lifting of css, since they've carefully and deliberately redrawn distinctive design elements, and lifted half the copy as well And this is a med…

Um, did you know that "awards" in the software industry are a sort of marketing gray area where companies pay a lot for a submission to some "organization" who then hands out "awards" and "nomiations" that can be advertized on websites?

"Awards" in many industries are marketing grey areas. In this case, though, it's just yet another free css design gallery: the only notable thing being that kintek probably nominated themselves, knowing exactly where their original design came from...