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Retiring Chrome Frame

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Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

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Something BIG is going on at Google!! They close one product after another, to free all resources for something. But what?

they are gonna become the next ms? they already have good dominance in browsers, wearable pc, phones, webapps..

people scurrying away from win8, opens a lot of doors.

Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

#92

This is quite unfortunate. Chrome Frame is one of the least intrusive ways to get WebGL support for visitors using IE8 and IE9.

...and 10 = ( Luckily, those IE 9 users are less of an issue if IE 11 includes WebGL as they tend to be auto-upgraded. The IE 8 users are a harder case.

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Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

#93
post #48

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Chrome Frame will still work after January, just it won't be updated anymore. I assume that means you can still rely on it for your product, no?

No IT manager would permit an unsupported browser plugin to remain deployed. Who's going to fix newly discovered exploits?

Hah, this shows what you know! If a browser plugin for IE6 causes problems, we just remove more sites from the whitelist on the proxy! You can Google, but you can't follow any of the results. :-)

Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

#94
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Another great opportunity to pressure IT to switch to Firefox as the standard.

There is still a ridiculous amount of enterprise web apps that are built for IE. Just saying "switch to Firefox" or "change products" is simply not an option.

One of the biggest surprises has been the grudging increase in "open" support in web apps with execs and field support staff/salespeople adopting iPads.

It's easy enough to tell someone "you can't use Mac/Linux/IE9/FFox/etc. unless you can make a case for it," when they're not contributing to the top line. Kill arguments claiming that it will save money by asking if it will increase general support costs.

When the CFO wants to be able to access the intranet with her iPad, it's a different story.

Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

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Some organizations don't allow it by company policy, regardless of whether it can be installed.

I've still yet to wrap my mind around the Chrome frame from an IT perspective. Even with thin clients, you could install FireFox or Chrome on your XP VM, and it'd result in less CPU overhead. I'll admit, IT is not my specialty nor is mega corporate politics, but I'd would venture to guess the cost of IE6-8 in IT overhead would negate any cost of deployment of Chrome or FireFox ESR. Anyone care to enlighten me as to w…

Sadly, it's not about logic in a lot of these cases.

Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

#96
post #21

Google may be continuing with the 'Don't Be Evil' motto but they sure ain't standing by a 'Don't Be Dicks' motto. What major software company announces a deprecation with 6 months of support. I have something going out relying on chrome frame plugin going out next week, now I have to go with my tail between my legs. Well lesson learned, can't rely on Google in the enterprise.

What were you paying for Chrome Frame? Sometimes, it makes sense to retire products. And if you're not making money on the product, then it can be expensive to keep supporting it. I think six months is still a reasonable amount of advanced notice. No matter what, a small minority will be unhappy. I think the real lesson here is: don't build something serious on top of a product you don't pay for and you don't have an…

> What were you paying for Chrome Frame?

They can't have it both ways: if everyone thought like that, nobody would have uses Chrome Frame.

Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

#97
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One wasn't "paying" with money. But Google wants to move all of IT in a certain direction (where cloud and web based technology is acceptable). Therefore Google provided the illusion that it's possible to mix ancient IE6-IT with modern Chrome web apps. Developers could feel save that it's okay to use modern technology and still be able to reach old shops. And old shops might have started to adopt modern web apps, als…

> Now they are forced to think again how to keep the old IE6-intranet running next to some Google Docs stuff they bought... The Chrome Frame retirement announcement points them to a solution for that, Google Chrome for Business [1] with Legacy Browser Support [2]. [1] https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/business/browser/ [2] https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/business/browser/lbs.h...

I was going to point this out as well, and it actually seems like a better solution. Default everyone to a modern browser with updates, and then throw them out to whatever you need to use for compatibility if needed.

Chrome Frame always seemed like a nasty hack which was unlikely to get much traction in companies that haven't updated from IE6.

Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

#98
post #48

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Chrome Frame will still work after January, just it won't be updated anymore. I assume that means you can still rely on it for your product, no?

No IT manager would permit an unsupported browser plugin to remain deployed. Who's going to fix newly discovered exploits?

These are the IT managers who haven't updated from IE6 yet. Something tells me they're not really that concerned about security in the first place.

Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

#99
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Where do you download older versions of Chrome, please? I uninstalled Chrome 27 completely because it was unusable (slow, pale blue screens, crashy etc) on XP but Chrome 25 worked fine.... PS XP is 12 years old.

FileHippo saves old versions http://www.filehippo.com/es/download_google_chrome/history/

Many thanks! A few too many old versions, really ;-)

Re: Retiring Chrome Frame

#100
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A cruise line is not going to get "outmaneuvered by a startup using technology which less than 10 year old. Nor an insurance company. Nor a bank. Nor large agrobusiness. The tech industry is not the only industry that exists in the world. There are many industries where software does not form the basis of competitive advantage. In those cases, IT is not the most efficient use of capital.

Who says the cruise line, insurance company, bank, agrobusiness and so on are going to get outmaneuvered by a startup? They're going to get outmaneuvered by another big company in their line of business with less-stupid IT policies. Getting these sorts of issues (and bigger ones) right is something big companies call "IT strategy" and they'll often pay consultants real money for it. That's because, done well, IT can…

Unlikely, as their competitive advantage does not come from IT.

For example, a bank competes on the basis of access to capital (i.e., deposits), which depends primarily on size, location, and interest rates. Given the choice between upgrading their computers and opening a new branch, it is much better to open a new branch.

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