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John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by freyr »

doe88 wrote: post #57
danpalmer wrote: post #47

Features: I'm all for simplicity, in the right circumstances. I use Clear from Realmac Software because when I'm creating to-do lists, speed is the most important thing to me. However, when I'm writing notes, accessibility is probably the most important thing for me and that means sync, I'd also bet this is the case for many people, hence the popularity of things like Evernote and Google Keep. The absence of sync fro…

Concerning the sync I think they're waiting to see if Apple plans to fix iCloud (with CoreData) in iOS 7 or if they must look for another way to do the sync. At least this is what I would do, we're very near WWDC I think it was wise to wait to see how it goes. Although I think what's more debatable was the decision to release the app now and not to wait few weeks or even september. Personally I would have tried (if a…

Why wait? They'll start getting users (and feedback) now and once they get sync, they'll get another press release out of it. Apple didn't wait until they could do LTE right to release iPhone 4s.

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by montagg »

jmduke wrote: post #21

It appears to me by purchasing this app, you are trading the features of existing products for a slick design. I'm particularly impressed with how they have spun the lack of features as a feature ("simple and elegant", "imposes no system") For me, inability to coexist with Notational Velocity is a dealbreaker.

It's just the difference between someone who wants a swiss army knife and someone who wants a santoku knife. They're just two different philosophies of experience design. Calling it "spin" ignores the actual benefits (and tradeoffs) inherent in that design philosophy.

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by jchrisa »

josephlord wrote: post #68
marbletiles wrote: post #54

Thinking that sync is optional is a really weird thing that seems to linger in the Apple world. You know the old William Gibson line that cyberspace is the place where telephone conversations happen? Not in the hardware at either end, but in the "space between"? Computing has moved there too. Work used to happen on a device and then was transferred to other devices, either manually (floppies, email) or later automati…

I find sync that requires an account a negative factor. There are many notes I wouldn't want to share with Google. Also as soon as you offer sync you need to have a conflict resolution approach and there is no way to always resolve in a clean way without user intervention.

We've been working on sync for a number of years, and have created an open-source lightweight iOS library and backend server. It's still alpha, but it's already in use by a handful of apps in the App Store.

Here's an overview: https://github.com/couchbase/mobile

The iOS embedded sync database: https://github.com/couchbase/couchbase-lite-ios

Embedded sync database for Android: https://github.com/couchbase/couchbase-lite-android

It is designed to sync JSON documents either to the cloud, or from device to device. Everything is open source, so you can run it wherever you want.

Our conflict detection and management works by detecting when two users modify the same document, and keeping both versions around. It's up to the application to merge them (or discard one). More about the protocol here: https://github.com/couchbase/couchbase-lite-ios/wiki/Replica...

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by rdouble »

tptacek wrote: post #34

I wish this existed on OS X, and not just iOS, a platform where I'm never particularly interested in taking notes. What would be especially nice would be if iOS Vesper was a satellite of a desktop Vesper, so that my photos and location information would automatically get pulled into my notes.

Day One does this.

It's a journal app, but it has the same features as Vesper, but with sync, a desktop app, and a calendar view of your posts. In my eyes it also has a very similar interface.

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Post by jkubicek »

rednukleus wrote: post #65
kloncks wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never. It's Gruber.

Honest question - what is it with these Apple fanatics not wanting to write any software ever for Android, Windows, Linux or anything not Apple? Is it just spite?

Why bother? An app like this is going to make significantly more money in the Apple ecosystem. With all the Vesper features they could be working on, I'm sure they don't see any need to spend time on Android or Windows right now.

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Post by ph33r »

kmfrk wrote: post #46
ramykhuffash wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be very similar to Day One, which also costs $5 and is quite popular

Day One looks really exciting, but the reviews are really up in arms about a lack of encryption. Does anyone know more about this supposed issue?

Lack of encryption and lack of Google Drive support have held me back from using this as well. Let me know if you find out anything more.
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