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Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by kweks »

Jun8 wrote: post #85
kweks wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I flew down to Istanbul this weekend to support my friends. Joined in the protests on the front lines - have some photos up: http://travel.ninjito.com/dump/2013-06-01-Istanbul-Protests/...

Great high-quality photos! Two points I want to underline: (i) the protester-driven excavator in photo 23 is a story onto itself (for those who can read Turkish, the full story can be found here: http://eksisozluk.com/poma--556945?a=today ) (ii) note that all the protesters in the mosque (Valide Sultan mosque, in Besiktas) have not forgotten taken off their shoes, as is the custom, even in that furor, thus disproving…

A little bit hard to follow the google translation sadly. I was running injured people back and forth into the mosque - what you said about the shoes was totally correct. In the end we had a system that people would meet us at the door to carry in the injured.

At one point an ambulance needed to go through - I ran in front clearing the way, up to where the digger was parked at the intersection.

Someone from the crowd jumped in to start it to make way for the ambulance, and spurred on by cheers, drove the thing forward, over the barricades, and directly into the water cannon trucks, sending the cops retreating.

After making a solid advance of about 500m or so, he was joined by 2 semi-trailers, before he was gassed out of the cabin. As he came down, I sprayed his eyes, and had a good 10 second pause, contemplating if it was worth driving the digger more. Eventually I decided that it wasn't my place (as a foreigner) to drive it, someone else jumped in and took off, and I hopped in the semi-trailer to help the driver who had been gassed.

Shot some video of the digger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86-r7CVQzF0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBsdYCOLuY

and from the truck cab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSA79KpOSZI

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by pasquinelli »

maeon3 wrote: post #7

The following is a description (slightly modified) from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness. At 2% and 3% t…

it's all right there in the protocols of the elders of zion.

same shit, different decade, different semites.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by Buzaga »

jacquesm wrote: post #45
ludwigvan wrote: post #34

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Thanks for the compliments about Turkish people, jacquesm. I can say that things have improved in the last couple of days; violence of police has been more or less throttled, the local media has started covering the news, and members of the gov't, the deputy PM, the President and even pro-goverment journalists have started realizing the significance of this issue. I would say the main opposition is actually against t…

I found it absolutely incredible that Erdogan would leave for a trip to Algeria (of all places) rather than to address these obviously very urgent domestic issues. Whatever he's doing in Algeria I can't imagine that it is more important than to solve the domestic crisis first. It's almost insulting.

it's a strategy... he's probably trying to dismiss the issue, doing the silence strategy hoping things will cool down on their own

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by coverband »

JamisonM wrote: post #51
maeon3 wrote: post #46

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Two can play at the genetic fallacy game Achmed... How about this abomination of a twitter feed? http://twitter.com/jmattheij

Sorry, I do not understand this. Who is Achmed? What is the "genetic fallacy game"?

I believe maeon3 intended to reply to jacquesm by using jacquesm's past twits, but ended up responding to you.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by Ygg2 »

maeon3 wrote: post #37
JamisonM wrote: post #32

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Let's have a look at some of the claims here: > Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Given the incredible over-representation of blacks in US prisons and the number of blacks that embraced Islam during the CRM this is a surprising statistic? > Like any other minority, they won’t integrate, but work to build their own separate community. Good, I am glad that we have worked out that this text is part of a large…

You said: "I mean look at what has become of the Germans and Irish in America!" I read your sarcasm. But the logic is flawed, just because some groups are peaceful does not mean all groups are peaceful. For example, Muslims are rioting RIGHT NOW and threatening Norway with more 9/11 events if Oslo is not made into a separate Islamic State. Why would Muslims do this?

Way to misrepresent the process that is happening in Norway. The Scandinavian countries are having a large, sudden increase in economic inequality.

A school was closed in the area and a lot of families lost support. THAT is what is causing unrest amongst the predominately Muslim people in that area. The spark was the fact that police executed a man threatening his wife in a domestic dispute (police job is to calm and not escalate disputes, escalation is for military). If this consistent with Jihad I have same bridges to sell.

To be honest if you want a parallel this is closest to Britain's demonstration last year (IIRC) and similarly to do with growing economic inequality. Unless the Brittain blackies are on the Jihad train along with Zionist and aliens. And KKK.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by zeroexzeroone »

Who in their right mind has little kids near a protest? Saw what appeared to be a man wiping a little girl's eyes.

I don't condone violence on any level and I am all for protesting but I would leave the kids with someone I trust and somewhere safe (if that is at all possible).

If I get even an inkling unrest is occurring I would immediately get my daughter to safety (again, if that is at all possible).

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by rolleiflex »

fixxer wrote: post #84

I'm just gonna jump out there and offer a prediction: Erdogan ain't gonna be hold power till 2014. Most of those victims pictured didn't look like young anarchists/WTO protesters to me... they looked like average citizens. Even if you've got a large contingency of black bloc (I don't know if this is the case and it simply hasn't been pictured), no EU-applicant country can/should be able to get away with such behavior…

Turkey is not only an EU–applicant country, it's actively in the process of joining the EU.

Re: Evidence of Turkish state violence in pictures

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Post by [deleted] »

ayi wrote: post #50
maeon3 wrote: post #39

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Ah, well then we'll take it on faith then. Why did you join the protest?

Because current government tries to change how we live. I think government's job is just trying to boost the economy, trying to not get into any war, paying the debts to IMF and etc. But current ruling party forces our life styles into a shape which they draw. Just one example: - Taksim Square is a famous tourist attraction centers of Istanbul. - Government first said to bars (pubs): "you can't put stalls on front of…

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