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Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

#91

It's always sad when someone brilliant loses life at such a young age. It's even worse that it was at the hands of a piece of shit criminal trying to save his own skin and is still alive. Very sad. Rest in peace.

I totally agree. It's the fact that a degenerate like that can end the life of someone awesome--the asymmetry--is what is really curse-worthy hard to understand.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

#93

After watching police chases on TV my whole life, I really want to know: What's the logical strategy in a police chase? Just keep driving after each other? It risks the lives of hundreds living and walking in the path of the chase all for the sake of punishing 1 or 2 individuals. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What a shame we lost someone so brilliant for nothing.

the rules all change when one of their own is killed. though it's largely emotional the resulting logic is strong. protection is generated from the fear of an emotional, armed response; so it survives as unwritten police policy everywhere.

just as if for example, we felt the same way the police would be quite scared right now.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it feasible to just track them from above with a helicopter? That would reduce the number of speeding cars on the road at least.

Once police have drones high-speed chases become much harder to justify.

I seriously doubt drones will cause less innocent deaths.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

#95
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can we even judge? The police back off often when they sense that a chase is too dangerous, they make a judgement call. Sometimes they don't have perfect information however, and shit just happens. It is not like the movies. I'm sure the officers involved are second guessing their behavior now, its not like people die every day like this. But really, its a tough job, we aren't really in a position to judge.

Police in the US are notorious for causing chases in dangerously crowded areas and endangering innocents. So much so they had to pass laws to make it illegal for police to do chases in many cities/situations to stop them. http://www.pursuitsafety.org/ http://kristieslaw.org/ http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-chases-california-injured-10... More bystanders are injured or killed during high-speed police chases than by st…

> Nationally, it's estimated nearly 300 people die each year as a result of high speed police chases.

That's a huge number. I'd love to know how many of those 300 are innocent bystanders. The fact that people involved in the chase (i.e. those running away) lose their lives seems like it's part of the risk.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

#96
post #81

After watching police chases on TV my whole life, I really want to know: What's the logical strategy in a police chase? Just keep driving after each other? It risks the lives of hundreds living and walking in the path of the chase all for the sake of punishing 1 or 2 individuals. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What a shame we lost someone so brilliant for nothing.

According to the article they killed a police officer and ran, if you don't pursue them how are you going to catch them? Aftersll, they did murder someone, and apparently they had warrants, so it seems reasonable to assume we dont want them out running around anymore as they sre likely to commit more fiolent crimes. Furthermore, if have a policy to not pursue, then every criminal is always going to run. The fault is…

Read more closely.

"When officers went to investigate, there was a physical altercation between police and 26-year-old Gerardo Diego Ayala that ended with a fatal officer-involved shooting."

The cops killed one of the suspects then pursued the rest, then a pedestrian died in the chase. But the fricken media did a great job phrasing things so the cops seemed justified, woo-hoo.

See:

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2013/05/santa_ana_pede...

(taken from further on this page, belongs further up btw)

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

#97
post #25

I just wanted to say two things here. One, this is an incredibly damaging tragedy. I truly wish the best for the community, for the Reisse and Oculus VR family. Secondly, my father has been an officer of the law for more than 25 years -- can we please not turn a thread which is being used to inform the community at large of a tragedy as a way to defame those who wish to do good in their community. I ask out of respec…

How many people has he murdered, so far?

The lot is a bunch of bullies who didn't want to grow up.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

#98
post #81

After watching police chases on TV my whole life, I really want to know: What's the logical strategy in a police chase? Just keep driving after each other? It risks the lives of hundreds living and walking in the path of the chase all for the sake of punishing 1 or 2 individuals. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What a shame we lost someone so brilliant for nothing.

According to the article they killed a police officer and ran, if you don't pursue them how are you going to catch them? Aftersll, they did murder someone, and apparently they had warrants, so it seems reasonable to assume we dont want them out running around anymore as they sre likely to commit more fiolent crimes. Furthermore, if have a policy to not pursue, then every criminal is always going to run. The fault is…

The way I read it, gang member Gerardo Diego Ayala was killed by a police officer. Then Victor Sanchez and 2 unidentified subjects fled the scene in a car. It's unclear what "officer involved shooting" means, but that's how I took it...

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

#99
post #81

After watching police chases on TV my whole life, I really want to know: What's the logical strategy in a police chase? Just keep driving after each other? It risks the lives of hundreds living and walking in the path of the chase all for the sake of punishing 1 or 2 individuals. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What a shame we lost someone so brilliant for nothing.

According to the article they killed a police officer and ran, if you don't pursue them how are you going to catch them? Aftersll, they did murder someone, and apparently they had warrants, so it seems reasonable to assume we dont want them out running around anymore as they sre likely to commit more fiolent crimes. Furthermore, if have a policy to not pursue, then every criminal is always going to run. The fault is…

You know, police in EU normally don't chase criminals at high speed and they normally found them easily after the fact (especially if they wound/killed a cop). High speed chases are extremely rare, there is no rational need for them (and the consequent danger for passers by).

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

#100

After watching police chases on TV my whole life, I really want to know: What's the logical strategy in a police chase? Just keep driving after each other? It risks the lives of hundreds living and walking in the path of the chase all for the sake of punishing 1 or 2 individuals. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What a shame we lost someone so brilliant for nothing.

the rules all change when one of their own is killed. though it's largely emotional the resulting logic is strong. protection is generated from the fear of an emotional, armed response; so it survives as unwritten police policy everywhere. just as if for example, we felt the same way the police would be quite scared right now.

> the rules all change when one of their own is killed

No police officer was killed. As far as I can tell the chase happened when three men fled police who had killed a fellow gang member.

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