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Slight nitpick, Apple's iMessage (edit:) and BlackBerry's BBM) aren't _really_ cross platform (unless you consider OS X to iOS cross platform). It isn't really useful beyond Apple's walled garden.
Is BlackBerry's BBM available to other platforms?
I'm amazed at people complaining about the fragmentation of IM clients and how it's going to kill instant messaging. IM has never been unified. In the mid-90s you had the war between AIM and ICQ, then came along the IM clients from MSN, Yahoo and Excite. That's what led to the rise of multi-protocol IM clients like Gaim, Jabber and IMVU and out of that rose XMPP (one of 5 major "cross-compatibilty" IM standards). The…
I'm amazed at people complaining about the fragmentation of IM clients and how it's going to kill instant messaging. IM has never been unified. In the mid-90s you had the war between AIM and ICQ, then came along the IM clients from MSN, Yahoo and Excite. That's what led to the rise of multi-protocol IM clients like Gaim, Jabber and IMVU and out of that rose XMPP (one of 5 major "cross-compatibilty" IM standards). The…
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/live/hh826554.aspx
AIM also has limited XMPP support (although that is just from a quick Google search, can't figure out if that is still the case).
Either way more and more clients and chat protocols were beginning to converge onto a single standard, that allowed people to easily communicate across different "domains". That is now going away.
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So now Facebook chat, which partially supports XMPP, is the most open of the widely used IM networks. There's a thing.
Hangouts supports xmpp clients (but not federation), so it's similar to facebook afaik.
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It's definitely not the lack of features, since XMPP is extendable. I've heard that the protocol is quite chatty and would cause power drain on phones. That could probably be solved with a binary serialization alternative to XML, though.
Is XMPP asynchronous?
I run two user accounts in Chrome during the day: One connected to my personal use the other to Google Apps for Business. I use Chat for Google for both (Adium sucks) About an hour ago, the personal account had a changed icon, started looking nicer, and is now called Hangouts. The Apps for business one stayed the same. I've never been closer to being a fanboi than I was with Google, but this seals it...I'm pissed. Cl…
You're wrong on almost every point. "Don't Be Evil" is not Google's motto, XMPP chat still works fine for my hangouts account and no, they couldn't do it without breaking the XMPP. I just hope they'll keep XMPP running for the chat. I'll stop using it the second it'll stop working in bitlbee.
Why not? XMPP is pretty extensible, and Google's Jingle spec was open. Is there a technical reason that Hangouts had to be based on something other than Jabber?
I'm amazed at people complaining about the fragmentation of IM clients and how it's going to kill instant messaging. IM has never been unified. In the mid-90s you had the war between AIM and ICQ, then came along the IM clients from MSN, Yahoo and Excite. That's what led to the rise of multi-protocol IM clients like Gaim, Jabber and IMVU and out of that rose XMPP (one of 5 major "cross-compatibilty" IM standards). The…
Gtalk and Facebook messenger both used XMPP. XMPP is federated so it allowed many people to easily communicate. Even MSN messenger got on board: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/live/hh826554.aspx AIM also has limited XMPP support (although that is just from a quick Google search, can't figure out if that is still the case). Either way more and more clients and chat protocols were beginning to converge onto a…
I'm amazed at people complaining about the fragmentation of IM clients and how it's going to kill instant messaging. IM has never been unified. In the mid-90s you had the war between AIM and ICQ, then came along the IM clients from MSN, Yahoo and Excite. That's what led to the rise of multi-protocol IM clients like Gaim, Jabber and IMVU and out of that rose XMPP (one of 5 major "cross-compatibilty" IM standards). The…
Gtalk and Facebook messenger both used XMPP. XMPP is federated so it allowed many people to easily communicate. Even MSN messenger got on board: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/live/hh826554.aspx AIM also has limited XMPP support (although that is just from a quick Google search, can't figure out if that is still the case). Either way more and more clients and chat protocols were beginning to converge onto a…
I was wondering why my friends with non-Google Jabber IDs were never showing up as online, and one day figured out federation was turned off.
This is as if a few months ago your email provider silently discarded emails to and from other domains, and just today abandoned SMTP and IMAP.
The true failure happened way back when federation was abandoned, not today.