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Re: Hangouts for iOS

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You're saying you'd like SMS integration? So if you add your friend with a dumb phone to your Hangout, they can participate via SMS? That would be awesome. I have a few friends with dumb phones that are constantly left out of iMessage conversations. I feel bad about it, but not bad enough to inconvenience myself (or pay for an SMS plan; yes I'm a terrible person). Edit: The federation thing is probably a pipe dream.…

Sure, that's one use of it. But also friends with smartphones but not Google+, those I communicate with by SMS or WhatsApp primarily at the moment, the majority of my contacts. It's not even that I want rid of my SMS plan, although I can definitely see the benefit of that too. We basically want the same thing - iMessages that works on Android, iOS and desktop, including SMS. Google are brilliant at sync and I have no…

Hangouts on web should work on other browsers too, obviously some better than others, but work nonetheless.

Re: Hangouts for iOS

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I'm not really sure this works. My colleague apparently messaged me last night, I didn't get any notifications. So this morning I started a new Hangout (text-only) and he got nothing either.

Aha! Finally had an email, over 10 hours after he first sent the message. It took an hour after I created a new Hangout with him for the message to even get to him.

Re: Hangouts for iOS

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So there's no presence/status notifications? I'll miss that when this hits GMail.

Online users are shown with a green bar under their photo. Inside the conversation, if someone is faded out then they are not there, but an unfaded image shows when they are currently in the conversation.

Online isn't the same as "available". A green dot in GChat means actively saying "you can interrupt me". A red dot means "this better be important". Currently about 2/3 of my GChat list is "away".

There's a whole world of etiquette here that they're throwing away.

Re: Hangouts for iOS

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Online users are shown with a green bar under their photo. Inside the conversation, if someone is faded out then they are not there, but an unfaded image shows when they are currently in the conversation.

Online isn't the same as "available". A green dot in GChat means actively saying "you can interrupt me". A red dot means "this better be important". Currently about 2/3 of my GChat list is "away". There's a whole world of etiquette here that they're throwing away.

I think they are trying to move more towards the long-lived conversations, where it shows you if the person is there and willing to be interrupted (the green bar), or they simply are not necessarily there to answer right now (because they are away from their computer, or they are in do-not-disturb mode). I realize that this is missing the middle "busy" state, but I don't really think that's a big loss. It used to be that when you sent offline messages it would end up as an email to them. Now when you send messages and they aren't in the online mode you can just assume that they'll see the message at the time of their choosing and respond then.

Re: Hangouts for iOS

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Other than number 3, this seems to match hangouts, assuming it works as they say (in a way iMessage doesn't seem to for you). The killer missing feature for me is SMS though, a vast majority of people cannot use Hangouts for the vast majority of their conversations because of the Google+ requirement.

You're saying you'd like SMS integration? So if you add your friend with a dumb phone to your Hangout, they can participate via SMS? That would be awesome. I have a few friends with dumb phones that are constantly left out of iMessage conversations. I feel bad about it, but not bad enough to inconvenience myself (or pay for an SMS plan; yes I'm a terrible person). Edit: The federation thing is probably a pipe dream.…

https://groupme.com/ may be able to help with your scenario.

Re: Hangouts for iOS

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They might have just targeted the 6.1 sdk and decided not to deal with the 6.0 issues. For new things it is actually a good idea as 6.1 is quite a bit better than 6.0 in things like core data.

The only changes made were in MapKit and UIKit. https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#releasenotes/Genera...

Doesn't mean there weren't any.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15550861/nssortdescriptor...

I find random differences far too often.

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