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Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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As a competitor to PS and Illustrator, that will never happen.

I thought PS and Illustrator were terrible tools in the competency domain of Fireworks?

They're less efficient and more difficult to learn, but they are serviceable for everything FW is used for.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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The best way I've found to make rounded corners in Photoshop is by using the round rectangle vector tool. It's relatively new, so you may not have tried it.

I can't tell if you're being snarky, or just don't have experience. It's not the creation of rounded rectangles. It's being able to change the radius afterwards (which Photoshop can't do). Also, if you want to change the size of the rectangle later in Photoshop, without distorting the corners, it's not easy -- you have to subselect specific control points, and then move them. It's not impossible in Photoshop, it's ju…

I'm not being snarky. Sorry of if it came out that way. You're right, changing the radius is too difficult; I'm just remembering back when creating rounded rectangles was itself a multistep process.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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The perfect combination of vector and bitmap editing. I love Fireworks. My guess is that Adobe just couldn't figure out how to make it better. It was already pretty much all it needed to be by about Fireworks MX. And it remains, to this day, a very different codebase. User-friendly but quite powerful behind the scenes. I could never get the hang of Photoshop or Illustrator. Sure, Photoshop may have features or Illust…

+1 for Fireworks is my groove and Photoshop doesn't feel right. Sad indeed.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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Our new vector drawing app, WebCode, is a nice replacement for Fireworks: http://www.webcodeapp.com/ It generates CSS, JavaScript+Canvas and SVG code from your drawings in real time and can also import PSD documents. The generated code works great on both Retina and non-Retina displays. You can even preview how your drawings would look on Retina displays directly in WebCode. It inherited a lot of things from PaintCod…

Is it using WebKit for rendering?

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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Will it help Inkscape? Could Inkscape advocate Adobe to let Fireworks live to help SVG grow?

I fail to see how keeping Fireworks around would help SVG. Does Fireworks even support SVG? Isn't it using layered PNG as native format?

Both Expression Design and Fireworks are now out of the way, so Inkscape could get a lot more traction.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

#96

This made me realize how much I miss Freehand which was way better and easier then AI. Now Adobe kills another superior piece of software made by Macromedia. On the other hand, Flash still lives strong. Go figure.

Flash still lives strong? They have killed Mobile Flash (it never got anywhere) and are preparing to kill Desktop Flash too.

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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post #30

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The best way I've found to make rounded corners in Photoshop is by using the round rectangle vector tool. It's relatively new, so you may not have tried it.

Indeed. For years we had to use workarounds and various cheats . Having different radii was a pain in the ass in PS, but a breeze in FW.

It's a breeze in PS now too.

Well, that's if you fork for the latest Creative Cloud subscription, or wait for the next boxed version.

The upcoming Creative Cloud version, called Photoshop CC (Creative Cloud), finally offers re-adjustable radii (for all corners).

See more here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B...!

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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post #74

The sad part of all of this is that there is still no true alternative to Fireworks... anywhere! :\

It's true, nothing that combines its simplicity, focus, and ease of use. Though fortunately there have been a number of great indie devs who've stepped in to make terrific graphics editing software: Acorn & Pixelmator are among the two best. My personal favorite (and closest true alternative) is Sketch:

http://www.bohemiancoding.com/sketch/

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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post #61

This made me realize how much I miss Freehand which was way better and easier then AI. Now Adobe kills another superior piece of software made by Macromedia. On the other hand, Flash still lives strong. Go figure.

I used Freehand when it was made by Aldus. Back then, Deneba Canvas was pretty good too.

I remember Canvas - really enjoyed it!

Re: Adobe is going to kill Fireworks

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post #13

I've been using Fireworks for years, back to Macromedia Fireworks 4. It's much better/faster than Photoshop for web design (rounded square corners come to mind). If you work on a Mac, consider Sketch by Bohemian Coding : http://www.bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ It's a great app, is updated very frequently and has come a very long way and could almost be seen as already superior to Fireworks CS6 in most ways.

Old now, but in 2010 Jon Hicks reviewed a bunch of Fireworks alternatives: http://hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/fireworks-alternatives-on-t... Well worth a read. It reignited on Twitter last week:

https://twitter.com/Hicksdesign/status/329882707507154944 https://twitter.com/Hicksdesign/status/329882861337464832

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