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Re: Popular Websites Displayed in IE 5

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I laughed out loud at Microsoft

Microsoft's design uses a mobile first approach with media queries and other techniques to make it a ubiquitous experience regardless of device. The others don't. That's why it looks the worst in an ancient browser, although it arguably looks better than the other examples if you were to open the same page on an array of devices with differing dynamics.

Re: Popular Websites Displayed in IE 5

#92

About a year ago I did the same thing with IE 5.1 for Mac, which was Microsoft's couterpart from this era. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150673019866971.... It had its own set of insane quirks, even worse than Windows IE5. It was the default browser on Mac OS for a long time, until Safari I think.

I remember the bad ol' days of having to support that browser. It wasn't compatible with it's windows counterpart and the 0.5% userbase were highly vocal if anything broke.

Ah, Tasman. Later MS did develop much better versions, but unfortunately new versions of IE for Mac ended when Apple moved to Safari/WebKit.

Re: Popular Websites Displayed in IE 5

#93
post #54

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"Command prompt", i.e. terminal, is what makes you toy a computer. If you don't have one, it's still a toy. MS did a lot to turn their lame "DOS command prompt" into a command line terminal; not enough, but a lot. So no, "command prompt" has nothing to do with DOS. You can run DOS programs from the GUI as well.

> MS did a lot to turn their lame "DOS command prompt" into a command line terminal; not enough, but a lot. Then they made PowerShell, which removes any complaints one might have!

My main complaint with PowerShell is that you can't pipe one command to another.

Re: Popular Websites Displayed in IE 5

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Since you're OK with poking fun at other people's software, I'll point out that your left margin vanishes at 990px viewport, and readers need the left-right scrollbar to read below 750px viewports. Not a great reading experience (in Safari 6 on Lion). Cheers!

Re: Popular Websites Displayed in IE 5

#96
post #15

It would be interesting to know how those pages function in IE5. Does anything they do rely on JS IE5 doesn't understand? CSS IE5 can't process? eBay, Amazon, and Facebook especially might become worthless even though it looks like they render in a usable fashion.

IE5 had XHR, but didn't have native JSON support and a number of other features. I think it was on ECMA 1 or 2 until IE5.5, which had 3. I wager no one uses JSON shims anymore. I don't really know what would happen when you try to use JSON in ECMA 1 or 2.

Anyone that uses jQuery’s (https://github.com/jquery/jquery/blob/1.9-stable/src/core.js...

Re: Popular Websites Displayed in IE 5

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post #93
post #54

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> MS did a lot to turn their lame "DOS command prompt" into a command line terminal; not enough, but a lot. Then they made PowerShell, which removes any complaints one might have!

My main complaint with PowerShell is that you can't pipe one command to another.

What do you mean? You can do stuff like this:

ps | where { $_.name -like "*host" } | foreach { $_.id | out-host }

Re: Popular Websites Displayed in IE 5

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I think that you are confusing backwards/forwards compatibility with the point the OP seemed to be making: Microsoft never bothered to follow the web standards.

Agreed, but... the standards themselves have changed since 1999.

Yeah, it seems Microsoft always has had good excuses. I wonder if other browsers from that period would have as poor results as IE5 does. I seriously doubt it.

Re: Popular Websites Displayed in IE 5

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Most sites these days are inoperable without JS.

Not really. Name me a major site that doesn't work at all without JS.

Dropbox - https://www.dropbox.com/

In Firefox 20.0.1, with Javascript disabled, after the login the home listing has a "The Dropbox website require JavaScript" text.

[EDIT: Clickable, more info]

Re: Popular Websites Displayed in IE 5

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Well, not any. For example, still no built-in decent package manager able to download and install software along with dependencies.

I didn't know bash or zsh had a built-in package manager!

I didn't know "command line terminal" equals "bash or zsh"!

Of course I'm talking ecosystem here.

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