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Re: Python.org Redesign Preview

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Post by testbro »

simonw wrote: post #52
gdg92989 wrote: post #47

The problem with python's website was never that it wasnt "Sexy" enough to attract newcomers. Its that the documentation was never as well written or well organized as other languages/libraries like ruby and jQuery.

Really? I've always found Python's documentation (especially the official tutorial) to be excellent. What do you think could be improved about it?

The documentation is beautifully written and perfect for learning, but it doesn't support the quick-fire referencing I, and I presume the other detractors, have grown to expect.

Contrast the first Google result for "python dictionary" [1] and "java hashmap" [2]. The Python result tells you about every data structure and does so in a story, the Java one gives you what you want and little more.

[1] : http://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/datastructures.html

[2] : http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/HashMap.h...

Re: Python.org Redesign Preview

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Post by random42 »

jacobian wrote: post #85
aviraldg wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just checked it out on my tablet (iPad) - I don't see much of a difference (of course, it's responsive!) except for the menu, which works pretty well :) Minor points: - When in "mobile mode", the search box changes colour so it doesn't look like a text input any more. I'm not sure if that's a good idea. - I agree with the others on this one again: the gradients and the shadows are a bit excessive. Maybe you could try…

The code's not open source yet, but it will be. The idea is we'll deliver what we've promised to the PSF, then launch the site for real (i.e. replace python.org) and open source the code at the same time. We want to make this into a community-maintained thing, but first we got some real work to do :)

Is it implemented in Django?

Re: Python.org Redesign Preview

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

aviraldg wrote: post #82
jacobian wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the feedback, good stuff. BTW, please do try the nav on mobile devices, especially tablets. They work there, too, and I think our designers did something especially slick :)

Just checked it out on my tablet (iPad) - I don't see much of a difference (of course, it's responsive!) except for the menu, which works pretty well :) Minor points: - When in "mobile mode", the search box changes colour so it doesn't look like a text input any more. I'm not sure if that's a good idea. - I agree with the others on this one again: the gradients and the shadows are a bit excessive. Maybe you could try…

I suppose the trick with the navigation only works on certain touch devices? Does not work on my phone.

Re: Python.org Redesign Preview

#95

Post by mbi »

random42 wrote: post #93
jacobian wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The code's not open source yet, but it will be. The idea is we'll deliver what we've promised to the PSF, then launch the site for real (i.e. replace python.org) and open source the code at the same time. We want to make this into a community-maintained thing, but first we got some real work to do :)

Is it implemented in Django?

Yep: http://preview.python.org/admin/

Re: Python.org Redesign Preview

#96

Post by buster »

Nice, but i think it is too dense with information and more confusing then the current one. There are those two big horizontal menus that confuse me and just moving the mouse over the first page pops up new menus everywhere.

I'd suggest: Put the main navigation bar (about, downloads, docs, etc) to the top and move the current top bar with links to the side, somewhere else.

Also Downloads and Docs is mentioned many times on that page, i'd suggest to leave the link to the Docs in the main bar and get rid of the other ones.

And at the bottom this whole page (takes up my whole screen) contains all this links again.

It's probably that way to decide which design way to go.. The blue navigation bar also is right in the middle of the screen, that's disturbing. The common way to display navigation is at the top or at the left side not right in the middle, where the content belongs (imo).

Anyway, keep going, you're doing a great job! :)

Re: Python.org Redesign Preview

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Post by pan69 »

Looks nice.

My feedback for what it's worth:

- The home page is very "blue". Personally I think this page will look better if the blue gradient in the background was a light gray gradient instead.

- Search icon needs to be lowered.

- Hovering the secondary menu is not a pleasant experience. I think this is mainly because of the white info panel in the drop down switch from right to left. It makes it look cluttered and disorienting. Another problem here is that there is a menu with drop downs in between the primary nav and the content. Moving your mouse between primary nav and content will bring up a secondary nav drop down which in my opinion is very irritating.

- I think how the menu is aligned under Education (overlaps the content) is the best way.

Re: Python.org Redesign Preview

#99

Post by mercurial »

jacobian wrote: post #30
msluyter wrote: post #22

Looks nice, but my first thought when I looked at the code example: 1 >>> l = ['spam', 'ham', 314, 23] was "wait, how are they assigning a list to the number 1? How is that possible? Oh... that's an l". (Not a fan of that. I'm half blind (figuratively) so these things confuse me.)

Yeah, that example is a placeholder; we plan on replacing it with something awesome. Thanks!

I'd suggest improving the colour scheme of the code window, dark green on dark grey background is not very legible. Maybe steal some colors from the Sphinx doc colour scheme?

Re: Python.org Redesign Preview

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Post by aviraldg »

jacobian wrote: post #72
aviraldg wrote: post #45

Constructive criticism: The shadow on the logo is too dark and looks wierd. Also, I'd put a call to action, like "Download" or "Learn" in a more visible format (maybe on a button) in a larger font, above all the "blocks", along with the content of the Statistics block. The PSF block at the bottom looks out of place. (I really love the way you show additional information when I hover on the links in the second navbar.…

Thanks for the feedback, good stuff. BTW, please do try the nav on mobile devices, especially tablets. They work there, too, and I think our designers did something especially slick :)

Here are some annotated screenshots of the design on my mobile devices: https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B2Fy-Q78JeVpV3UyOGpnSVZ0UV...

(The higher-rez ones are from Chrome running on my Galaxy Note; the lower-rez ones are from the stock browser on a Galaxy Ace)

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